Lionel Messi - v7

5ergio_Busquets

New member
According to multiple sources Bartomeu doesn't want to sell Messi no matter the price. So if Messi wants to leave he will need to force a move. Barto with some smart chess moves there.
 

Rory

Senior Member
I want to see a camp nou brawl between the FC Messi fans and Anti-Amigos Fans. Malvolio will be the FC Messi Commander, while Serghei will command the Anti-Amigo squad. Second in charge for FC Messi will be Messigician and second in charge for Anti Amigos will be jamdav.


FYI I will be with mah boi Serghei's squad.

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Won?t you lot be too busy sniffing your own farts?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
And thats the thing, Messi doesn't think these guys are ready to win ANYTHING. And then why stay with 33yr on back? No point for him. These young guys can wait for 3-4-5 years, until project is built around new guys, but Messi can't. It's now or never for him to have any chance of winning. If he stays, this team is not winning anything in next few years, if he goes, same thing. So really, only thing that would be different is Messi putting 40-50 goals behind the net and us losing vs him not putting 40-50 for Barca and us still losing.

Do you think Messi thinks of Suarez as an issue on the park or one of the better players let down by others?

Messi realising team is not good enough is not the same as him being correct on what is needed to change things.

Barca should have lessened role of amigos on interfering in transfers, interfering in training, interfering in coaching choices and making Barca tactically inflexible and old on park.
 

blaugrana1987

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According to multiple sources Bartomeu doesn't want to sell Messi no matter the price. So if Messi wants to leave he will need to force a move. Barto with some smart chess moves there.
Barto is escalating situation with club legend. If he cannot provide club with means to do good transfer window (which, he cant) Messi is gone next year for free and we aint winning shit anyway. So all in all, this is nuclear situatio he is trying to run with.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Dawg, we are broke and we have to replace half the squad. We squandered the money in last few years without a fucking result. We payed 120m for Couthino, sent him to Bayern and he fucking won CL with them resulting us paying additional 5m to Liverpool. Thats enough for any guy to say "What the fuck is this board doing?".

Koeman is, for all I care, fucking hack. He is non character in all this. He is not Klopp, he has ZERO results and I will not stand behind tabloids writing this is because amigos don't like his attitude (these tabloids already got payed to shit on Barca players by the board before).
The central thing here is that Messi didn't spoke out at fucking all after these disasters and was happy to win La Liga, which has been at best two horse race for decades and not even that in recent years, with both Real and Atleti choking year after year. He was happy with cuck managers, who didn't impose any new tactics, any fitness improvements like at least Lucho did and board, who went after galactico signings, while letting La Massia rot. He obviously cares about winning in back of his mind, but it's also obviously he doesn't understand how winning is influenced by the management of the team. Someone, who is not only clever on the pitch, but also sees the overall scheme, he should've DEMANDED change in the management towards more assertive and change orientated ways, not be happy to see fat Suarez butt wiggling in front of his nose and old man Busquets falling on his ass and Alba crying like a little bitch after every counter attack against non-scrub teams in Europe. He is at least short sighted in this, therefore this sudden outburst is ignorant, even if he can't help it. If he knew and had any intelligence and leadership, he would be pissed off much earlier, he would be demanding changes and resignation of Barto's amigos long ago. He didn't do a zilch, which makes me believe this current hysteria could really be all about amigos and not wanting big bad koemander telling him what to do.
Sorry guys, this is just my honest opinion. No disrespect to Messi, but every guy has his flaws.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Barca need to rebuild and Messi needs to win now.

Ironically we could mount a much better title challenge without Messi. Griezmann suddenly gets viable and we get funds for a few new signings (a striker+midfielder would suffice). Then again we would be better off with Messi+new signings, but thats rather unlikely in the current situation.

Messi knows this and acts in our (and his) best interest. While shooting down Bartomeu in the process. 4D chess by him. 'insert that stupid Dark Knight quote about heroes'
 

blaugrana1987

New member
Do you think Messi thinks of Suarez as an issue on the park or one of the better players let down by others?

Messi realising team is not good enough is not the same as him being correct on what is needed to change things.

Barca should have lessened role of amigos on interfering in transfers, interfering in training, interfering in coaching choices and making Barca tactically inflexible and old on park.
Do you really think poor board was afraid of players like Messi and Suarez and wanted to please them with Cou and Griezmann (just to get easily rid of Cou and put Griez in position he doesnt play in)? Do you really think that is the case? After this board payed tabloids to put dirt on our own players, you think their only sin was being afraid of amigos and doing whatever amigos thought was good? Even firing Valverde? Getting Setien (who the fook is that guy?)? That was all for amigos?

Your theory is fucking nonsensical. Glad you are slowly moving away from it, but still putting blame on Messi and even for things board is to blame for, you make them look like they naivly got cheated by naughty amigos and now get shit on for that.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
He was okay with losing to Roma 0-3 and Pool 0-4.

If it was ENTIRELY about the sporting project, he would have left last summer.

He obviously cares about winning but whether he cares more about that (having already won so much in his career) than playing with other veterans remains to be seen.

If he goes to City, it's more about about the sporting project. If he stays and the board resigns and we keep Suarez, then it's more about playing with veterans.

We'll know soon enough, hopefully, which theory is the more correct one.

Yeah and dont forget how he has supported Valverde several times.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Ironically we could mount a much better title challenge without Messi. Griezmann suddenly gets viable and we get funds for a few new signings (a striker+midfielder would suffice). Then again we would be better off with Messi+new signings, but thats rather unlikely in the current situation.

Messi knows this and acts in our (and his) best interest. While shooting down Bartomeu in the process. 4D chess by him. 'insert that stupid Dark Knight quote about heroes'


Doubt it.
Griezmann will get a role, and you`ll have some more workrate in the team, but then you lose a cheat code who will win you basically every home game were you are struggling, and a few ones away too.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Do you really think poor board was afraid of players like Messi and Suarez and wanted to please them with Cou and Griezmann (just to get easily rid of Cou and put Griez in position he doesnt play in)? Do you really think that is the case? After this board payed tabloids to put dirt on our own players, you think their only sin was being afraid of amigos and doing whatever amigos thought was good? Even firing Valverde? Getting Setien (who the fook is that guy?)? That was all for amigos?

Your theory is fucking nonsensical. Glad you are slowly moving away from it, but still putting blame on Messi and even for things board is to blame for, you make them look like they naivly got cheated by naughty amigos and now get shit on for that.

My stance has been same whole way through and before he announced was leaving.

What is fucking nonsensical is thinking Messi believes Suarez is part of the problem with Barca on the footballing side.

Amigos have had far too much influence and has player part in weak board arriving where are now.

Stop making shit up about tabloids when you don?t know what you are speaking about.
 

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