JamDav1982
Senior Member
Messi legacy is fine.
It will take a small hit if goes to EPL and doesn?t dominate though.
It will take a small hit if goes to EPL and doesn?t dominate though.
Iirc, you are from Spain, right?
If you are, I have a news for you.
No one in the world cares for Copa del rey and Spanish supercopa titles.
The only titles that count are World cup, Euros/Copa America and leagues.
But then, 1 CL is worth like 5 leagues.
So, you can't say: Messi has more la ligas, that's the same as CLs.
Cl is the most important trophy in a club sport.
No amount of La ligas where trophies are won in matches against Mickey Mouse teams can change that.
If you measure who played more beautiful: Messi
If you count who won more biggest trophies: Cr7 6:3, the double amount, with his strong direct influence in all titles.
Sporting aspect as in : they have good, young project with great coach. I don't think they will be winning next CL for sure, but 1-2 good additions to the squad and they are all but winning double 100%, and you would still say they would be one of favorites for CL. On the other hand we are scrambling to stop Messi go, because he has been cheat code for this team for so many years (financial as well) + can't buy shit because we are literally broke.No I am disagreeing they are ?thriving? in a sporting aspect when had two CL last 16 exits and not near favourite for next one.
You are overplaying them on that.
Do you know that Pep's Barca didn't play against physical teams?
And when they did, they lost almost all ties:
2009 Chelsea
2010 Inter
2012 Chelsea
Also, there was no Italians back then due to calciopoli scandal (Juve) and bankruptcy of their sponsors (the fall of Milan).
Bayern was the weakest ever during early Pep, isn't it?
Bayern and Germans who won 4:0 against Messi's Argentina in 2010, 1:0 in 2014, 7:0 with Bayern in 2013, 8:2 in 2020.
It works both ways.
Peps-Messis Barca shined when there was no Italians and Bayern in KO matches.
When they returned after 2011, Messi won 1 in 9 years.
You see, it works both ways.
There are ifs on both sides.
You can't put ifs only on the side of RM's, Cr7's and Portugal's titles.
And say that everything with Messi was a pure magic.
I mean you can, but that is not objective then.
I agree. RM has had slight edge in Ronaldo + team + coach in CL, and absolutely massive in terms of actually doing business and financial aspects which board is responsible for.
Both are focal points of attack.
Ronaldo has more assists as well even if team is not built to get him
On ball and create as much as Barca is for Messi.
Messi couldn?t lead an attack on break and with balls into box the way Ronaldo has.
Excuses are to make out Messi does all Ronaldo does and more. He doesn?t.
Excuse are to make out Cr does all Messi does and more. He doesn't.
I sometimes really wonder why is BBZ supporting Barca? He obviously thinks Ronaldo is superior to Messi, he also doesn't rate Xavi or Iniesta as high as rest of us are. Furthermore, La Masia is totally overrated according to him. He also prefers physical way of playing and not the one implemented by Cruyff. Dude you actually dislike everything Barca stands for. What the hall are you doing in this forum?![]()
I am agreeing Ronaldo has been better since they won first CL with Real, but I also think their entire squad was better in CL + coach. I also think their board outperformed ours with transfer dealings, coach hiring (Zidane 3xUCLs) and just general way of doing business, hence making it easier for Ronaldo to show that difference.Not sure what that agreed with but keep posting same thing!
Pique >>> Maldin, right ?Iirc, you are from Spain, right?
If you are, I have a news for you.
No one in the world cares for Copa del rey and Spanish supercopa titles.
The only titles that count are World cup, Euros/Copa America and leagues.
But then, 1 CL is worth like 5 leagues.
So, you can't say: Messi has more la ligas, that's the same as CLs.
Cl is the most important trophy in a club sport.
No amount of La ligas where trophies are won in matches against Mickey Mouse teams can change that.
If you measure who played more beautiful: Messi
If you count who won more biggest trophies: Cr7 6:3, the double amount, with his strong direct influence in all titles.
If you measure who played more beautiful: Messi
If you count who won more biggest trophies: Cr7 6:3, the double amount, with his strong direct influence in all titles.
I sometimes really wonder why is BBZ supporting Barca? He obviously thinks Ronaldo is superior to Messi, he also doesn't rate Xavi, Iniesta or Pep as high as the rest of us are. Furthermore, La Masia is totally overrated according to him. He also prefers physical way of playing and not the one implemented by Cruyff. Dude you actually dislike everything Barca stands for. What the hall are you doing in this forum?![]()
I am agreeing Ronaldo has been better since they won first CL with Real, but I also think their entire squad was better in CL + coach. I also think their board outperformed ours with transfer dealings, coach hiring (Zidane 3xUCLs) and just general way of doing business, hence making it easier for Ronaldo to show that difference.
Where I think difference in La Liga has been is that Messi was literally 1 for 1 to score/assist in La Liga ever since he came here thus being our "cheat code", which is much harder to replicate in knock out stages and one stupid game can cost you even if you are massive favorites (like us in 2016).
Pique >>> Maldin, right ?
I love when people using Team Trophies when they're pushing there agenda and now suddenly a league is not important and yet all of the top players playing almost all the league games. And why it's a big deal in football world what Maradona did in Napoli, nobody cares about league anyway. Or maybe league is not important for you because it doesn't fit the agenda 😆