That's nice. Now how about you apply this same logic to OG's posts who blames Messi for every single Barca defeat.
Too much to ask?
OGs posts speaks for themselves, can't be a Barca-fan, given how much he goes after Messi.
That's nice. Now how about you apply this same logic to OG's posts who blames Messi for every single Barca defeat.
Too much to ask?
Come on how was that Messi's fault ? He scored twice and one of them was banger. It's unreasonable to blame the collapse of our backline , GK and midfield on him. Put him in any other team with the same lead and he would have been in the final.
I for one don't blame Juve's exit against Ajax and Lyon on CR7. The guy scored his goals in both those games and should have easily progressed to the next stage with a competent team.
OGs posts speaks for themselves, can't be a Barca-fan, given how much he goes after Messi.
well it wasnt entirely messis fault. but the claim most of you guys want to defend is that messi is the GOAT and all that. well, that actually has to mean something; i.e., it has to be demonstrated when it matters. if you cant count on supposedly the best of all time to bail you out of trouble then--the title is meaningless
my whole point is actually the opposite: messi is not nearly as good as all that. he doesnt deserve the goat title precisely because he cant make good on it. so the expectation should be much lower.
im judging him by the standrds you lot have of him. and by that standard, his head-down, walking around defeated at anfield is inexcusable
Yes, he should be more like CR7 and kick the opposition players when getting 0-5ed by Pool
well it wasnt entirely messis fault. but the claim most of you guys want to defend is that messi is the GOAT and all that. well, that actually has to mean something; i.e., it has to be demonstrated when it matters. if you cant count on supposedly the best of all time to bail you out of trouble then--the title is meaningless
my whole point is actually the opposite: messi is not nearly as good as all that. he doesnt deserve the goat title precisely because he cant make good on it. so the expectation should be much lower.
im judging him by the standrds you lot have of him. and by that standard, his head-down, walking around defeated at anfield is inexcusable
barca fan= wanting barcelona to do well, win trophies, play well and all that
messi as the 'leader' of the team for the last 6 years= the club has become the meme of the CL, losing clasico after clasico, not winning the title for years despite messi scoring boat loads against eibar and osasuna
its perfectly reasonable to be critical of messi while being a barca fan. most here are the opposite: they would rather messi score 50 goals against almeria as long as he won the golden boot, but apparently it doesnt matter at all if he just walks around in the big games and puts his head down as we get spanked in clasicos and CL
no thanks
? where are you even getting that? you might be a worse reader than i thought, lol. i teach 19 year old undergraduates whose comprehension is better than this, lmao
2-8 vs bayern; 3-1 at home vs paris with mbappe pissing on messis face
cope
He does his speaking on the pitch(a lot of the time anyway), what does walking around looking sad has to do with it?
Okay, Ronaldo looks more angry/fustrated when his team is losing, what good does it do the times he doesn't score?
This doesn't have much to do with anything.
It truly is the international break on this forum.
Messi is gone this season. Is he still to blame for us sitting in 10th in LL and being even worse in CL?
Maybe as a self-professed, holier than thou Barca fan (who cares about this team more than us non fans), you should direct your posts towards how this team can be improved/constructive stuff rather than come on the forum every time CR7 scores with a "SIUUUUU"
I forgot you were a professor
Hey, at least most of you guys get to enjoy it, i get no club football and is eternally let down by my national team, worst of both worlds.