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linetty

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I could swear that just 2 days ago you were disagreeing with people who thought that Lucoh was a clueless muppet. I wonder what changed ?
Nothing changed. We're not a disaster at a footballing level, we're not doing good but not bad, yet. We're a disaster at everything else though, board destroying our tradition etc.

You, who shit on Lucho mindlessly, don't take into account that we had only 2 days of rest after a tough game vs PSG and that we played on a rainy potato field at a shitty time, 4pm games are always tricky.
 

gatsu

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Pep, Cruyff and Mourinho together probably wouldn't be able to win La liga with the current set of players.

Oh I didn't know that we have a team made of D2 scrubs, nonsense, relatively to the squad quality (in individual terms), we are largely capable of competing against anyone, to bad thanks to lucho's clueless approach we are lacking regularity to win la liga, but regarding Cups we are still among the favourites.

Any decent coach can do a lot better.
 

Hamzah

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Also when enrique said b unpredictable it wasn't in terms of offensive surprises. He literally meant that you don't know who the fuck is going to play and where. I don't think the opponent loses sleep over these "changes"
 

Chong Li

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Nothing changed. We're not a disaster at a footballing level, we're not doing good but not bad, yet. We're a disaster at everything else though, board destroying our tradition etc.

You, who shit on Lucho mindlessly, don't take into account that we had only 2 days of rest after a tough game vs PSG and that we played on a rainy potato field at a shitty time, 4pm games are always tricky.

I'm not critisizing the results. It's the football we're playing that I find unacceptable. We've had 22 games now and not one "complete" game from minute 1-90. And we're still as unstable as in the start of the season, no progress at all.

It's pretty obvious Lucho's tactics with the ultra offensive Alves and Alba is not working, but he's too stubborn to admit and just tries (and fails) again and again, ruining our midfield and wasting a Messi in absolute great form.

Lucho is not a Barca quality manager, simple as that. He needs to be sacked!
 

raskolnikov

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How so? We compete on every front.

We are not consistent yet but some signs are positive. It will take time, but we're going the right way.

Its the opposite, thanks to Lucho's tactics and remaining on to being a shadow of pep's system with no midfield and many rotations. Add along a failing board with bad transfers and its another season without trophies.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
The only positives are from individual moments. Our overall play is awful, and we can't defend. You don't win trophies like that, and also like you said there is no consistency. We have a very good squad on paper but play well below it. What have you seen from enrique to show he knows what he's doing, is learning from errors and we will become a team where people know what they're doing, are happy and play as a unit (aka champions)?
 

Kohe321

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You, who shit on Lucho mindlessly, don't take into account that we had only 2 days of rest after a tough game vs PSG and that we played on a rainy potato field at a shitty time, 4pm games are always tricky.

As if this was the first bad game of the season... What's the excuse for 90% of the other games we've played so far that have been bad then? The excuses you list are not even remotely close to explaining that performance yesterday against a low team like Getafe either. We have played 22 games so far under Lucho, and we can count on one hand the games where we have looked decent at best, and still have fingers left to count with. We are in December and still show extremely unstable performances and our play is looking incredibly unimpressive apart from the times Messi (or someone else) bail us out alone.
 
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messi2140

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As if this was the first bad game of the season... What's the excuse for 90% of the other games we've played so far that have been bad then? The excuses you list are not even remotely close to explaining that performance yesterday against a low team like Getafe either. We have played 22 games so far under Lucho, and we can count on one hand the games where we have looked decent at best, and still have fingers left to count with. We are in December and still show extremely unstable performances and our play is extremely unimpressive apart from the times Messi (or someone else) bail us out alone.

I was about to reply to him but it seems you have done it for me , for that I thank you.
 

raskolnikov

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What I dont get is this, when rotations dont work and your team clearly suffers while others book results trough consistent line ups, then why keep at it our of pure stubborness?

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Kohe321

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How so? We compete on every front.

Do you rate how a team is playing by the competitions they are still in? So as long as we have a chance at La Liga or remain in the CL you won't draw any conclusions on how we're actually playing, because hey, we still have a theoretical chance at these trophies?

It's still early in the season regarding these competitions, I mean, if we weren't still in competition for major trophies in December then the board and the coach would have packed up and left already.
 
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linetty

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Do you rate how a team is playing by the competitions they are still in? So as long as we have a chance at La Liga or remain in the CL you won't draw any conclusions on how we're actually playing, because hey, we still have a theoretical chance at these trophies?

It's still early in the season regarding these competitions, I mean, if we weren't still in competition for major trophies in December then the board and the coach would have packed up and left already.
Yeah, we can't possibly be that bad if we're sitting on the leader's ass, eh? Our team is rebuilding phase, bad games are interspersed with better ones, it all takes time. RM was also not that good in the first months when Ancelotti took over.

It's not like all what is bad is on the coach and all that's good is on individual players' brilliance. Just give the guy some time, another sack will make everyone go nuts...
 

Kohe321

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It's not like all what is bad is on the coach and all that's good is on individual players' brilliance.

How come? You guys talk like there is some logical breach or fallacy in that statement. There's not. Saying that when we win it's because of invidivual performances and when we lose it's because of the coach is a pretty accurate description of how we're doing in this season so far.

I don't wish to sack him yet either by the way, as I don't see anyone better available and the constant change would only disrupt the team I think.

Other than that, let's just agree to disagree.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
Ancelottis first months were a totally different ball game. Also we are not on the leaders ass at all. The only reasons we are even close is because they got a shock loss to Sociedad and the fact it's only December. It's clear we will drop more points than them between now and the endbcuse we aren't fixing our problems. As we saw yesterday we can't b bailed out by individual actions every time.

As for the second paragraph, I'm afraid it is. The only good thing Lucho has done is bring neymar closer to the goal.
 

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