Luis Enrique
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LeeRomeno
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You would rather be Arsenal and without trophies? It is absolutely visible to anyone that current youth and B teams just suck. There is noone to promote and those who have been are okey but not spectacular. All those hyped up youth players who left have been more or less invisible after leaving club.
Well, even if they are just average, Barca can make everyone look good. Just look at Pedro, who is really just an above average winger, not much more really. For a year or two he was almost world class, which is a testament to Barcas ability to make average players look great.
serghei
Senior Member
That's because concentrating on youth without enough quality there is the shortest road to become the spanish Arsenal. When you don't have enough quality in the youth ranks you buy that quality from other sources. It's the only thing you can do to stay succesful.
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khaled_a_d
Senior Member
There isn't a single young player that has proved Lucho wrong yet.
In fact,Sandro & to less extent Munir has proved him wrong when he put his trust on them.
He had made a veto on S.Roberto transfer and kept him and gave him a bigger role,gave Rafinha huge faith and many fans thinks he doesn't deserve it,wanted Denis back since last summer.
Those are the best Barca prospects that the academy had to show.And that is what happen when the likes of Sanabria,Bellerin,Icardi,Keita Balde leave the club at the age of 16-18
Topolino
Gemusesuppe
Yes. We should take into account that for a few years we've been losing quite a few promising players from younger ages so the ones who remain might not have the quality to step up.
Besides.. how many of those younger players who havev't been given their "fair chance" have actually hit it off? Maybe only Deulo and not even he has set the world alight for Everton yet.
We'll see. So far Lucho has given a lot of time to youth but they haven't taken their chances imo.
Besides.. how many of those younger players who havev't been given their "fair chance" have actually hit it off? Maybe only Deulo and not even he has set the world alight for Everton yet.
We'll see. So far Lucho has given a lot of time to youth but they haven't taken their chances imo.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
You don't get a chance,you earn one
Gerard earned one after his phenomenal season with B team in 12/13 but Tito loaned him and he didn't set the world on fire. Lucho came and gave him the preseason and he didn't prove he deserve a chance on a team that had to win something after trophy less season. There was a place for him and Munir took it.simple as that
Adama?Are you kidding? He is probably the worst prospect we had in a decade,a definition of Anti-Barca player. A player who plays with his head down and tries to dribble past 5 players on the sideline
And Pedro was willing to stay in the B team until he was 23 with no "promotion clause" .he could have stayed with B team until 2010 if Pep didn't promote him and he didn't complain
May be if our players are willing to stay so long for B team and tell their agents to stop potting such clause we can make comparison to Pedro situation.
jamrock
Senior Member
I'm not taking about jamming every single player from the youth into the starting XI.
But you are telling me, there wasn't a space for delou in the squad, samper, Bartra. We wont always produce messi's and iniesta's, but there is always a play for a few good prospect in the team, and they stay here and develop, not just thrown a side.
It's not just about winning at Barcelona, it never has been, but most if these new barca fans only came on the ship when we were winning, so that's all they are use to.
It's about how you win, you win with style, you win whole trying to integrate as many players from masia in the side as possible, sometimes it's 11, sometimes it's one. But you try unlike now.
And Denis isn't a player from masia
But you are telling me, there wasn't a space for delou in the squad, samper, Bartra. We wont always produce messi's and iniesta's, but there is always a play for a few good prospect in the team, and they stay here and develop, not just thrown a side.
It's not just about winning at Barcelona, it never has been, but most if these new barca fans only came on the ship when we were winning, so that's all they are use to.
It's about how you win, you win with style, you win whole trying to integrate as many players from masia in the side as possible, sometimes it's 11, sometimes it's one. But you try unlike now.
And Denis isn't a player from masia
jamrock
Senior Member
Being a barca manager is about both winning and developing the youth, I bet you that under pep and the great Joan laport and I hate to bring them up, samper and delou would have been give a full season with the first team to prove themselves, not just a preseason, like that means anything, they would also have gotten proper minutes within that season. Now would they have been world class? Probably not, but they would have been given the chance within the structure of the club.
Being a barca manager is about balance winning and developing the youth, those should be the two perquisites for being a barca manager.
Loco like Tito before him can't do both, he is all about the finish product, which is why he even loaned out denis, and is just bringing him back now.
So good luck to any of the potential busquets who are in our ranks who needs a manager to trust him and see his potential, because Luis isn't that.
Being a barca manager is about balance winning and developing the youth, those should be the two perquisites for being a barca manager.
Loco like Tito before him can't do both, he is all about the finish product, which is why he even loaned out denis, and is just bringing him back now.
So good luck to any of the potential busquets who are in our ranks who needs a manager to trust him and see his potential, because Luis isn't that.
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Flavia
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I just hope he knows what he's doing about the rb. Lost Alves and didn't get a proper replacement. Vidal will need to learn to defend, not sure if this will happen. Bob also has problems as a rb. I think the forwards have enough cover with Denis, Arda and Munir. Lucho is a bit stubborn sometimes, and if he sees Vidal or Bob as a project, it could be problematic.
serghei
Senior Member
There is no point to talk about a RB. It's clear from the clues in the media and from what the board and Lucho said, as well as their overall behaviour in this preseason, that signing a RB was not the plan. And that can only mean they still trust Aleix Vidal, since he was probably signed as a replacement for Alves.
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