i_bleed_blaugrana
Senior Member
They are different. You can say otherwise but it's different. The passing is not focused on triangles anymore. We pass to open spaces now. The triangle was the biggest part of the Pep tiki taka. We don't fully rely on the mid now (nor in the 2015 treble season). Messi was not the central part of the attack under Lucho's winning seasons. The attack is more shared now as opposed to Pep's time.
The DM role isn't even the same. Busquets thrived under Pep because he was given more freedom. Under Lucho, the DM role is much more traditional and now he has Rakitic alongside him acting like a DM/CM hybrid.
Also, Lucho utilizes the wings WAY more than Pep ever did. In fact most success under Lucho's tenure came from attacks on the wing. With Pep we nearly always played through the middle because our passing was that hypnotizing. The passing channels under the Pep system was also a much shorter distance. Keeping very close space between the mids and the attackers was another huge highlight of the Pep Tiki Taka. Shorter passing range = easier to play tiki taka. Just compare this to Lucho attacks: A lot come from counter attacks or big passes to MSN who then create something.
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with that sentence. They are fundamentally different coaches. However, they have both utilized their squads to their fullest strengths. Lucho with the focus on our starpower attack, and Pep with the focus on the La Masia star mids.
I've made this point prior in this thread and I'll reiterate it now, there's a distinct difference in tactics and strategy. I don't disagree with your observations but what you are pointing out are the tactical variations between the two. Tactically in their approach, they are different. Lucho has traded off ultra-possession and control for a more open game that's a bit less organized. The reason for that is to give MSN the freedom to find the open spaces and allows them to interchange at will. At the same time, I'd argue that at its best, Lucho's system was better defensively and is more imposing on set pieces, a long time Achilles heel for us. Yes, we sit deeper and the MF is much more rigid but, for Lucho, he'd rather have that environment than one where the opponent is forced to retreat inside their own box.
Strategically however, I don't see as much difference in them as far as how their general approach to the game is. It's important not to compare our current state as an indication of Lucho's Barça became I think a lot of our tactical features recently are purely circumstancial. But with everyone at top form here, theres definitely still elements of Pep's Barça: interchanging forwards, quick passing moves, overlapping fullbacks. Particularly when we have the ball in the opponents half, we still attack in similar ways, it's just our build-up play from the back that's different from Pep's.
I'm just saying people make it seem like we play like Chelsea (who play better football these days, ironically) under Lucho and have completely abandoned our previous style of play. Yes, Lucho and Pep aren't identical but there is plenty of ideas about the game that they share. Lucho wouldn't have been here in the first place nor would he have had the success he's had without that commonality.