Luis Suárez

serghei

Senior Member
Anyone who sides with the veterans at this point is clueless. :lol: Everything that is possible and legal should be done to move them.

Club told them to find teams because they are not in the manager's plans. That fucking simple.

So, yes, if Madrid is not damaging their reputation leaving Bale in the stands who scored key goals in 2 CL finals for them, neither are we.

If anything this helps our perception with other players, because we are seen too much as a retirement home these days. Where you get paid the best in Europe even if you are old and can't run anymore.

We need to get rid of this retirement home image and develop more of a ruthless image. For future players to know this is not a club where you get nice and cozy at 34, getting paid a fortune while putting abysmal effort on the field.
 
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FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Anyone who sides with the veterans at this point is clueless. :lol: Everything that is possible and legal should be done to move them.

Club told them to find teams because they are not in the manager's plans. That fucking simple.

So, yes, if Madrid is not damaging their reputation leaving Bale in the stands who scored key goals in 2 CL finals for them, neither are we.

If anything this helps our perception with other players, because we are seen too much as a retirement home these days. Where you get paid the best in Europe even if you are old and can't run anymore.

We need to get rid of this retirement home image and develop more of a ruthless image. For future players to know this is not a club where you get nice and cozy at 34, getting paid a fortune while putting abysmal effort on the field.

Bingo. We need to be ruthless with past their prime guys who are just collecting paychecks. Barcelona is a sports team and the players should live up to certain standards of physical condition and focus on the game. If they can't, move them. Immediately.
 

raedkuwait

Senior Member
Anyone who sides with the veterans at this point is clueless. :lol: Everything that is possible and legal should be done to move them.

Club told them to find teams because they are not in the manager's plans. That fucking simple.

So, yes, if Madrid is not damaging their reputation leaving Bale in the stands who scored key goals in 2 CL finals for them, neither are we.

If anything this helps our perception with other players, because we are seen too much as a retirement home these days. Where you get paid the best in Europe even if you are old and can't run anymore.

We need to get rid of this retirement home image and develop more of a ruthless image. For future players to know this is not a club where you get nice and cozy at 34, getting paid a fortune while putting abysmal effort on the field.
Spot on Well Said.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Pirlo actually sat down with Higuain and explained properly why they were moving on. Didn't have the President and then the manager piss him publicly and then talk to him for a min and say goodbye.

Listen, I've been talking about how bad and toxic this guy have been since 2017. God knows how much I've wanted him gone, but they could have done a better job at telling him they want to move on....perhaps it would have led to a sale or/and an agreement that suit both parties.

But this is Josep Maria Bartomeu and Sandro Rosell's FC Barcelona Board so what can you expect? They told Johan Cruyff to piss off so what is Luis Suarez, or even Leo Messi.

That's fair. Is it confirmed Suarez is even in Spain? We know Messi isn't so a call (or a fax lol) is suffice.

I imagine with everyone on their holidays in these circumstances that a phone call is OK and too much is being made of the length. I don't imagine you can drag a call out longer when your telling someone they are surplus to requirements.

So what Im getting at is what is the difference in Juve and Barcelona in wanting to get rid of talent?

We have tried to do it the nice way with Rakitic last year and Umtiti but they are sticking around. If the player is refusing to budge then it may leave no other option but to pay out their contract.

Again we are coming off of the worst and most embarrassing loss in modern club football and drastic changes are needed. The players literally managed themselves to an 8-2 loss.

Look at this Messi situation. Messi has an option to end his contract at the end of the season. Likewise Barcelona has the option to pay out a players contract.

What is the difference In both?

Why is ok to dismiss a manager like Valverde paying his contract and not a player.

So is the issue the approach, or the action, or is it the status of the individual it is happening to.
 

Androutsos

Senior Member
He only has 1 year left right? Pay his salary and keep him in the stands for a full year. Let's see who wants to buy a near 35 year old with no game time for a year.

I'm sick and tired of these leeches. We're getting rid of this crap board, and we should do the same with these overpaid divas. No mercy. And if he causes trouble in the team fine his ass harshly for any rule he breaks.

Yeah, and then no player EVER wants to join Barca again. Congrat-u-fucking-lations bro.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Lol, players will always want to join Barca.

It wouldn't be the first time a club would keep a player on the sideline for a whole season for whatever reason. Another thing would be not paying his wages which we legally can't do without facing serious consequences.
 
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Respekt_III

Anti-everything
Yeah, and then no player EVER wants to join Barca again. Congrat-u-fucking-lations bro.
I think it sends the right message, don't join if you're not willing to put in a shift and really play for the club. People will come here to win those who want to come to retire will have second thoughts. Thats also excluding the stature of the club the city and the amount we pay them. Seriously use your fucking brain.
 
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Messi983

Senior Member
Have you seen what they earn here compared to similar players at other top clubs? "It has always been a dream since I was a kid to play for Barcelona one day."

This needs to change too under a new board. We should be able to lure players here by promising them a fair chance to win a starting spot and/or potentially replacing (once) great players like Suarez, Busi, Pique, Alba and not just overpay them to come here. If some players will decide to join other clubs because they'll get more money there then so be it. It's not like we've gotten all the best players in the world now by offering them the highest wages.

Surely with Messi and other current high earners leaving over the next few years our wage budget won't be as problematic anymore but our whole wage scale is screwed. Most of our backups/squad players are earning around the same or even more than many starters at other top clubs.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Absolutely clueless.

Aye Barca should just start paying up full remaining contracts and let players go for free for any that refuse to leave.

Damage club but at least agents and players will love it..

Put power completely in hands of players and allow them to get their Barca salaries, new club salaries and huge signing on fees at expense of club.

Great idea.

Are you high or something? This is what Serghi is suggesting, to pay him and bench him.
If you want him to leave, you work with him for best Available deal for everyone
To pay him while shutting him, or terminating his contract get you what?
You pay him in full, you don't use him, and you destroy your reputation
Yeah, genius move.
Or you work with him, try to find a way that let him move away gracefully (may be promise him that his tean will be here for next Juan gamper so fans can make a proper goodbye, or whatever) , may be take minor loss paying difference in salary.
But, to scapegoat player in media, go on war with him WHEN YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY HIS SALARY, that is idiocy.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Are you high or something? This is what Serghi is suggesting, to pay him and bench him.
If you want him to leave, you work with him for best Available deal for everyone
To pay him while shutting him, or terminating his contract get you what?
You pay him in full, you don't use him, and you destroy your reputation
Yeah, genius move.
Or you work with him, try to find a way that let him move away gracefully (may be promise him that his tean will be here for next Juan gamper so fans can make a proper goodbye, or whatever) , may be take minor loss paying difference in salary.
But, to scapegoat player in media, go on war with him WHEN YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY HIS SALARY, that is idiocy.

:lol:

What? I said if he pulls a Bale that's what you can do. What Madrid is doing. Pay him, because you will be sued in court and lose if you don't, but isolate him from the team. To further induce the idea that he has to accept a move.

Of course you work to get him a deal, but at the end of the day, he might prefer to stay and collect the fat salary he has. Like Bale is doing. Especially a fucking deluded dude like Suarez, who in his head is probably better than Lewandowski, even though he moves like a 3 burritos a day truck driver.
 
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Givenchy

Senior Member
Are you high or something? This is what Serghi is suggesting, to pay him and bench him.
If you want him to leave, you work with him for best Available deal for everyone
To pay him while shutting him, or terminating his contract get you what?
You pay him in full, you don't use him, and you destroy your reputation
Yeah, genius move.
Or you work with him, try to find a way that let him move away gracefully (may be promise him that his tean will be here for next Juan gamper so fans can make a proper goodbye, or whatever) , may be take minor loss paying difference in salary.
But, to scapegoat player in media, go on war with him WHEN YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY HIS SALARY, that is idiocy.

This is not the Barca of old, mes que un club is dead. Barto doesn't give a shit about our reputation just look at what happened with Santos - Neymar, PSG - Verratti/Neymar and Dortmund - Dembouz strike.

Most of the football world sees Suarez as a racist thug so i doubt they will be siding with him any time soon but I do agree other options should of been explored first. terminating his contract should only be done if he refuses to budge, same with Raki
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Lol, players will always want to join Barca.

It wouldn't be the first time a club would keep a player on the sideline for a whole season for whatever reason. Another thing would be not paying his wages which we legally can't do without facing serious consequences.

Yeah, this happens very often. Especially on teams with high wages and small possibility to sell.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Are you high or something? This is what Serghi is suggesting, to pay him and bench him.
If you want him to leave, you work with him for best Available deal for everyone
To pay him while shutting him, or terminating his contract get you what?
You pay him in full, you don't use him, and you destroy your reputation
Yeah, genius move.
Or you work with him, try to find a way that let him move away gracefully (may be promise him that his tean will be here for next Juan gamper so fans can make a proper goodbye, or whatever) , may be take minor loss paying difference in salary.
But, to scapegoat player in media, go on war with him WHEN YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY HIS SALARY, that is idiocy.

It's just a power move. I doubt Suarez would never sit on bench for a year like Bale. He wills sign with someone else. (Especially if Messi leaves)
 

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