Malcom

[messi15478]

admirable effort but you're missing a few

The Troll Master has spoken

 

[Alik]

I know that he didn't play too much, but in two friendlies in a preseason, two La liga cameos and in a Cdr, he hasn't shown anything except a goal against Roma.

I wonder why the same standards aren't applied on Rafinha

 

[Raketa10]

So RAFINHA and MUNIR are in front of this guy??? Go f... yourself Valverde!

 

[jairzinho]

Could have helped out us tonight, but he's been ostracized. Munir is useless.

 

[Catta]

It's a disgrace that shit players like Rafinha and Munir are in front of him. There is no way he can be so bad in training that those two are getting chances before him. If he had their minutes this season, Malcom would have surely shown that he is better and more useful than those two combined.

 

[El Guaje]

This dude doesnt make the bench game after game but Rafinha is obviously somehow good enough to start...

 

[xXKonan]

Would have been a great game to have as a bench option.

But instead, he's Frozen out while we are still using the likes of Munir off the bench to play as a winger.

 

[soul24rage]

Would have been a great game to have as a bench option.

But instead, he's Frozen out while we are still using the likes of Munir off the bench to play as a winger.

seriously have no idea what EV sees in Munir.

 

[Givenchy]

should leave in January. what an embarrassing situation.. paid 40mil for him, he snubbed Roma for us and then we play him once or twice then freeze him out totally. this is the type of shit that will have other young players thinking twice about joining Barca

 

[te amo barca]

Bbz and cherry-picking data, name a better duo.

 

[xXKonan]

seriously have no idea what EV sees in Munir.

Munir is technically the only backup striker we got.

What's baffling is shoving Munir on, to play a Winger's job when we already had a spare one that we spent 40 million euros on that was left at home. Not just an ordinary winger but a highly rated one as well. The attempts Valverde goes to do to try and justify his decisions in freezing Malcom out is something else.

 

[Bulgroz]

Hey guys, sorry for the late reply.

Malcom can work defensively, much more than a Dembele for example. He didn't defend much against lesser teams (possible our coach asked him not to though, to focus on offense), but he really did against top tier teams like PSG or Lyon.

And to those thinking he might not have the skill to play for barca, come on. It's not like you're only playing Atletico and Real every weekend. He was great against Lyon, and pretty good against Paris. Even if you think ligue 1 is shitty (and it's not), you can't seriously believe that Lyon, Marseille and Paris would end up 10th in la Liga. Those are good team, and Malcom was good against them. He's skilled enough to at least play la Liga games. Said it before, he's smarter and more hard working than Dembele, even though he's probably less talented.

 

[Givenchy]

Hey guys, sorry for the late reply.

Malcom can work defensively, much more than a Dembele for example. He didn't defend much against lesser teams (possible our coach asked him not to though, to focus on offense), but he really did against top tier teams like PSG or Lyon.

And to those thinking he might not have the skill to play for barca, come on. It's not like you're only playing Atletico and Real every weekend. He was great against Lyon, and pretty good against Paris. Even if you think ligue 1 is shitty (and it's not), you can't seriously believe that Lyon, Marseille and Paris would end up 10th in la Liga. Those are good team, and Malcom was good against them. He's skilled enough to at least play la Liga games. Said it before, he's smarter and more hard working than Dembele, even though he's probably less talented.

this is what suprises me most about the Malcom situation.. I thought he'd bench Dembele in EVs system and we'd all be complaining about Dembele not getting game time but instead hes totally frozen Malcom out, banished to the stands.

I was so hyped when we got Malcom from under Roma last summer but heh i should know better by now with this clown of a manager. was only a matter of time before he found his new golden boy Gomes replacement.. Rafinha

 

[Messigician]

Copa is his chance to impress and earn gametime he will get a chance next Copa game

 

[BBZ8800]

First of all go see how the discussion started and who started acting like a proper dickhead.

Had a decent statiscal season with 12 goals + 7 assists.
Wicked left shot
Very dynamic off the ball
Has the quality to beat his man
And he is a pretty fast player aswell.

Now you give me 5 reason why he is not even making the bench , while the likes of Denis and Gomes last year do.

This is an extra so you don't need answering it as it is a bit off-topic , but could you please give me 5 reason why the fuck Pique somehow keeps playing while he is absolutely shit ?

Pique:
1. you know that answer like when Busi is bad, and people reply: we at least know that he can play well and we are hoping that he will reach that form again
2. Pique was good in a last couple matches, until yesterday
3. there are no other defenders available currently
4. a club's icon and to some extent, a symbol of Barca, a symbol of Catalonia, a symbol of their fight for an independence. For us who are not living there, it is hard to imagine how strong connection is that one

I wonder why the same standards aren't applied on Rafinha

It was 3-4 Months ago, but wasn't Rafinha the best player in our preseason in every single match?
Further, that argument when people say: he used to be well, so we at least know what he can offer.

Regarding last Month, Rafinha was good against Inter.
And bad later.
But in EV's eyes, probably still less bad than Dembele.

Dembele was bad yesterday again.
Some will say: he scored a goal.
The thing is, in the last 6 matches, we won all matches (except yesterday) without Dembele.

I will put some numbers now, not a real numbers, so they will be pulled from my ass, how users like to say.
But this is just a general idea why wingers/Dembele are not playing under EV.

So, just my estimation/explanation in numbers:
433 with Coutinho-Suarez-Messi/Rafinha:
Attacking power of a team: 90%
Midfield balance due to 4 or 5 midfielders (3 midfielders plus 1-2 wingers like Coutinho/Rafinha): 95%
Defense of a team: 90%
Number of lost balls from wingers: let's say 10 per match

Now, add Dembele instead of Coutinho or Rafinha:
Attacking power of a team: 95%
Midfield balance: 80%
Defense of a team: 80%
Number of lost balls from wingers: 20 per match

So, you see, I agree with you, with Dembele (or Malcom), we really DO have a stronger attacking power.
But we are losing in other areas like midfield, defense, number of turnovers/counters.

And now, the thing is, even WITHOUT Dembele/Malcom, we have won 5 out of 6 last matches and scored A LOT of goals.
So, my point: even with Coutinho-Suarez-Messi, our attacking power is good enough, mixed with other areas of a pitch where we are quite well balanced.

Again, this is just my estimation, but in an example above:
With Dembele in a team:
+ you will get +5% points in attack (in video-games/manager games way)
- but you will lose -35% points in midfield, defense and turnovers

I would explain Dembele's impact to EV's team similar to what Rakitic is doing to a team.
For example, we all agree that Rakitic is a good hardworker and a good defender.
And a weaker passer/playmaker than Iniesta-Coutinho.

Now, the same story:
Iniesta:
Passing 99%
Defending 60%

Coutinho:
Passing 95%
Defending 50%

Rakitic:
Passing 80%
Defending 90%

Now, if you'll play Iniesta-Rakitic duo, you will lose some passing accuracy and playmaking skills, due to Rakitic.
But, if you'll play Iniesta-Coutinho, who have better passes than Rakitic, you will lose way more in terms of midfield balance, workrate, defending than you will get with a few percentages of passing.
So, with Iniesta-Rakitic, you will have:
Passing: 89,5%
Defending: 75%

With Iniesta-Coutinho:
Passing: 97%
Defending: 55%

So, you see: is it worth to play Iniesta-Coutinho to get 7,5% better passing (than Iniesta-Rakitic duo), but also to lose 20% in defending?
So, when you sum it all, Iniesta-Rakitic is on a larger sample of matches a better/more balanced duo than Iniesta-Coutinho EVEN THOUGH Iniesta-Coutinho will be more dangerous attacking wise.
But football is not only ALL about attack.

So, to some extent, I see Dembele (in EV's tactics) similar to this.
With Dembele in a team, you will earn a few points in attack.
But you will lose in all other areas.
And when you sum it all, with him on a field, you are losing more than you are gaining.

And our results in the last 6 matches showed that.
It doesn't mean that in some matches he can't be an impact sub and a better pick than Rafinha/Coutinho.
But on a larger sample, over 38 matches, a trio Coutinho-Suarez-Messi will probably bring more 2:0 victories than Dembele, who's matches will end in 3:3 4:3 and 1:3 all the time (more goals for us, more goals for the opponent, more counters, less balance in midfield, less possession for us).

Regarding Rafinha vs Dembele, EV probably thinks that EVEN Rafinha is bringing more balance all over a field to a team than when Dembele is on a field.
And Dembele will enter only in an emergency cases when a plan A with possession and control is not working good enough.

Regarding Rafinha vs Malcom, you can apply the same logic: EV is going for all-rounders and is less interested in pure attacking skills.