Malcom

[Kuchi]

Another shit season with a double? Entitled little prick...

You honestly think last season was good? You actually watch the way we played most of the important matches? We didn't lose key matches, while narrowly winning some we normally should have not, in both instances playing UGLY football.

So no, winning a Copa no one gives a fuck and a title with luck and ugly football, saved by individual Messi brilliance from time to time..no..i am not entitled or spoiled....cant't believe the silverware is already papering the giant ass cracks

That Roma game, that's our season for me, as that game happened all throughout the year, the only difference is that somehow we didn't concede...

 

[Trickykid]

Obviously. But there are usually a lot more people who tend to overhype the players who they aren't even fully knowledgeable about.

Absolutely. I've seen quite a few in this thread, though, who has slacked off Malcom without having the first clue about what he's like.

 

[Devils]

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Off to Portland for the USA tour.

 

[Trickykid]

You honestly think last season was good? You actually watch the way we played most of the important matches? We didn't lose key matches, while narrowly winning some we normally should have not, in both instances playing UGLY football.

So no, winning a Copa no one gives a fuck and a title with luck and ugly football, saved by individual Messi brilliance from time to time..no..i am not entitled or spoiled....cant't believe the silverware is already papering the giant ass cracks

For the majority it was a very good season with a mostly horrible end - except for a great Copa final - with some terrible tactical choices and equally terrible player performances. A double is always great, and only you kids who became fans under Pep will see that as a shit season.

 

[Kuchi]

For the majority it was a very good season with a mostly horrible end - except for a great Copa final - with some terrible tactical choices and equally terrible player performances. A double is always great, and only you kids who became fans under Pep will see that as a shit season.

Think the season's as good as the level of our football when it mattered & against who it mattered, that's why i don't agree with your point, but hey...it's only natural we see things different. Scraping wins while playing bad is not a good season, it's a fluke and will likely not happen again.


PS.Not really a kid, started being a fan during the figo/rivaldo/kluivert era and got crazy with Ronaldinho.

 

[Windhook]

For the majority it was a very good season with a mostly horrible end - except for a great Copa final - with some terrible tactical choices and equally terrible player performances. A double is always great, and only you kids who became fans under Pep will see that as a shit season.

Every season Real Madrid winning the Champions League eclipses Barcelona's achievements, regardless of La Liga & Copa success. It's rivalry. There wouldn't be a problem if Bayern wins CL, though.

 

[Barcaman]

Needs to be said that we played bad football. For example, in last 10 years here this was the hardest one to pick mom.

Double is great but we got humiliated in CL against Roma and I really didn't enjoy Barca football as I used to (and that's probably the main reason why we're all here).

 

[Judoman]

That Roma game, that's our season for me, as that game happened all throughout the year, the only difference is that somehow we didn't concede...

This says more about your (pesimistic) mindset, than of what actually happened. You are obviosly "forgeting" how season started with Neymar drama and all that followed.
Valverde managed to win a double, while playing with perhaps the weakest team in the last 10-15 years. Dembele was out for more than a half of a season, Suarez got slower and fater, Iniesta gor slower,
he had limited options in midfield and attack.
Of course he had to be pragmatic and conservative in order to win trophies. Yes, that Roma game was a fiasco, but i m prety sure, that most fans would take that double with open hands when the season started.
Go back to last years posts and see the moaning and whinening.

This season will show what kind of a coach Valverde is. The team is improved in all 3 lines and we had no drama. He and the team need to step up a level higher.

 

[Messi983]

I know it's not the right thread to discuss this but since there is already a debate going I have a question that was in my mind for some time. Would people be more happy with our season if we would be out of La Liga title race in Nov./Dec. (like RM was last season) and win CL? Everyone is blaming Copa and saying RM didn't take it seriously while we did and that's what affected our CL campaign (which I disagree with but that's not my point here) but Madrid basically played meaningless games in La Liga for 5 or 6 months as well. Eventhough Valencia had a better season than expected a top 4 finish was never in danger for Madrid so they could just concentrate on the CL.

 

[Trickykid]

I feel really sorry for the people who can't enjoy our own successes whenever RM also wins something important. The number of successful seasons for them must be pathetically low.

Ah well, glad I'm not one of them.

 

[Jombi]

DonAk and some told me that I am ruining their fun, so let's stop for a while, enjoy a hype, and let's wait for his first minutes.
Then we'll whine.

I have no idea why are you putting the transfers of Cr7 aged 24, Bale 24, Kroos 24 in the same bracket as transfers of Dembele, Malcom, Vinicius and Rodrygo.
First 3 are proven players on their prime, the 2nd for are... well, you'll understand soon.

Mostly because you are referring to 25 year olds as youngsters and kids in the past and 24 year olds have most of their best years ahead of them and can be kept for a long time without needing replacement, something you've previously dismissed as you do now with "people being blinded" and instead you focus on players closer to 30 who have more experience.

You seem to constantly move goal posts all the time, not to mention your laughable cherry picking of players. If Neymar succeeds after being dismissed by you prior to joining us, you will suddenly start to highlight his previous NT experience as the reason. If Malcom succeeds, you will start to highlight it being because of his extensive European experience prior to joining us. If Arthur succeeds you will start to highlight his CL dominance in Brazil. And you will be against any other young signings as usual and let City sign Jesus, Sane etc, PSG sign Mbappe, Real Madrid sign various young players and praise their strategy, praise Marcelo, Ramos, Varane, Casemiro etc (all joining as kids by any of your definitions) by revising history. Casemiro wasnt a teenager like the rest, but a 20/21 year old, and he got a season on loan in Portugal before he became a RM starter and mainstay in their team. I am sure that was crucial, but when Malcom has 2.5 years of French league experience its ignored.

Its also interesting how you just previously have said that we cant know whether 21 year olds will become good enough until they're 25, we are not Porto who can wait for this is your usual argument and they will not be useful to us before then, and now you are saying something entirely different as usual, talking about one season being enough to tell.

 

[ASordidGod]

It was a good season considering the circumstances, but it certainly wasn't an enjoyable one. And when you combine turgid football with a fiasco like Roma, well of course it's going to take the shine off any achievements. Particularly as when Dembele came back, and we'd built up a big lead thus lessening the need for pragmatism, Valverde made no real attempt to change anything, and remained content, at least as I saw it, to grind out results. Pragmatism is all when and good when there's a pressing need, hence why fans of smaller teams are content enough to play that way, but for a bigger club, particularly one like Barca who takes so much pride in its philosophy, in a way of playing (and rightly so), it's unacceptable in the long term. Hopefully Valverde has realised this, and will learn from his mistakes. His steady hand was useful for a time, but now he needs to show more.

 

[YodaMaster]

Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one’s views and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one’s valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.

 

[BBZ8800]

I know it's not the right thread to discuss this but since there is already a debate going I have a question that was in my mind for some time. Would people be more happy with our season if we would be out of La Liga title race in Nov./Dec. (like RM was last season) and win CL? Everyone is blaming Copa and saying RM didn't take it seriously while we did and that's what affected our CL campaign (which I disagree with but that's not my point here) but Madrid basically played meaningless games in La Liga for 5 or 6 months as well. Eventhough Valencia had a better season than expected a top 4 finish was never in danger for Madrid so they could just concentrate on the CL.

For me, CL is always the most important trophy.
And even though I like La Ligas and treble, I would sign right away:
Barca out of La liga race in October.
Barca not winning CDR in 2019.
Barca winning a CL in 2019'.

I know that is sounds slightly awkward: to accept being out of La liga race in October, for a CL win.
And it draws 100s of new questions like:
1. that would mean that we probably played like a crap for 10 Months
2. that probably means that EV should be fired since we played like a crap in La liga
3. that probably means that we didn't play beautiful football if we were out of La liga race in October

These are hard questions, but for me: I would sign a CL title in 2019 instead of La Liga and Cdr right away.

 

[Joan]

Absolutely. I've seen quite a few in this thread, though, who has slacked off Malcom without having the first clue about what he's like.

I agree. I don't even see people overhyping Malcom since almost nobody watched him, but quite a few are complaining about it. And of course, doesn't go without 'he's not gonna make it although I still haven't seen him play'.