Manchester United

[Martindn]

The appearance and body language of the players is the exact same of the LA Lakers under Mike D'Antoni. They clearly do not want to play for their coach.

I feel terrible for Rooney and Vidic. I like those guys.

Yeah i can see why, honestly, we played more attacking at the bloody bernabeu. As soon as Kagawa and Welbeck came on we was narrow and played marginally better, but can tell confidence is lost throughout the whole club from the players to the fans. I do not believe in sacking a manager but what other option do we have? Can anyone honestly say they thought he would do this badly? And it will improve next season? He is sadly not good enough to pull us through this and attract the players we need.

Throw the safe at Klopp and hope for the best really.

 

[veryfatchocobo]

Honestly, if he just changed Cleverley for Kagawa and put Rooney at CM, the game would've been much more closer. Kagawa and Welbeck kept fighting for the center. It was only when Welbeck realized Kagawa wasn't budging that Kagawa started opening up Olympiakos. It's a mystery as to why he wanted both of them to interchange.......... Also even more baffling that Kagawa is benched 5ever despite some really good performances when he was allowed to keep the #10 role. I honeslty think Kagawa is better than Mata there (trequartista), but Mata is better in a free role. It's really stupid to see Moyes try to make Kagawa do a LW-Center rotation with his fellow winger. I guess this is why Moyes doesn't rate him at all........ But yeah, I hope today was another proof that Kagawa shouldn't be a benchie.

Moyes really should try a real 4-2-3-1 and not a 2-striker formation after every game. And Januzaj shouldn't ever play over Kagawa or Mata at the 10 role........................................ Moyes pls....

 

[Martindn]

Honestly, if he just changed Cleverley for Kagawa and put Rooney at CM, the game would've been much more closer. Kagawa and Welbeck kept fighting for the center. It was only when Welbeck realized Kagawa wasn't budging that Kagawa started opening up Olympiakos. It's a mystery as to why he wanted both of them to interchange.......... Also even more baffling that Kagawa is benched 5ever despite some really good performances when he was allowed to keep the #10 role. I honeslty think Kagawa is better than Mata there (trequartista), but Mata is better in a free role. It's really stupid to see Moyes try to make Kagawa do a LW-Center rotation with his fellow winger. I guess this is why Moyes doesn't rate him at all........ But yeah, I hope today was another proof that Kagawa shouldn't be a benchie.

Moyes really should try a real 4-2-3-1 and not a 2-striker formation after every game. And Januzaj shouldn't ever play over Kagawa or Mata at the 10 role........................................ Moyes pls....

Kagawa isnt negative enough for Moyes, i wish him well if he goes over the summer i really like him, could see his quality last night especially when pressed, he was the only one who didnt shit himself with the ball. But most of the season he has been as gash as the rest of the team, bar a brilliant performance away at leverkusen. It would be nice getting any 2 of Mata/Januzaj/Kagawa on the pitch at the same time nevermind which position to play them in

I honestly cant see how much worse it can get, there is no way these players have declined so much in 8 months naturally, i mean these are the same players that almost beat Madrid with 10 men. Something is seriously wrong (Take a guess).

Spoiler: Record breaking season

United lose to Olympiakos for the first time after winning the four previous meetings
Stoke earn first win over Man Utd since 1984
Swansea win at Old Trafford for the first time
Newcastle win at Man Utd for first time since 1972
Everton achieve same feat for first time since 1992
West Brom win at Old Trafford for first time since 1978

 

[Ghostmaster]

Spoiler: Record breaking season

United lose to Olympiakos for the first time after winning the four previous meetings
Stoke earn first win over Man Utd since 1984
Swansea win at Old Trafford for the first time
Newcastle win at Man Utd for first time since 1972
Everton achieve same feat for first time since 1992
West Brom win at Old Trafford for first time since 1978

Wow record breaking season indeed. Yeah I see your point SAF managed to play succesfully with players near their 40s and now Moyes comes in and suddenly everyone has declined and they need hundreds of millions to improve the squad. Something is indeed fishy about that.

 

[Martindn]

Wow record breaking season indeed. Yeah I see your point SAF managed to play succesfully with players near their 40s and now Moyes comes in and suddenly everyone has declined and they need hundreds of millions to improve the squad. Something is indeed fishy about that.

Yeah exactly right, its shocking what the "Pundits" and many media outlets are saying, that we need X amount of quality players or a full rebuild. They are trying there hardest not to blame Moyes they let him get away with the same shite being spouted after every game. Granted we do lack a few quality players, but the biggest problem is a lack of confidence both in the tactics and the manager himself, and no amount of £££ will change that.

Edit : Gone from champions to laughing stocks, breaking every record along the way, it really does not help most of my family are City supporters haha.

 

[antonnn]

Seriously, the club are in such a pathetic state that I can't even laugh anymore. I can hate a club really badly but sometimes it gets to a point when they're doing so badly that it's no longer amusing. The way this is going Moyes won't last the season, let alone getting sacked in the summer. Geez.

 

[Bertus]

Yeah exactly right, its shocking what the "Pundits" and many media outlets are saying, that we need X amount of quality players or a full rebuild. They are trying there hardest not to blame Moyes they let him get away with the same shite being spouted after every game. Granted we do lack a few quality players, but the biggest problem is a lack of confidence both in the tactics and the manager himself, and no amount of £££ will change that.

Edit : Gone from champions to laughing stocks, breaking every record along the way, it really does not help most of my family are City supporters haha.

Yesterday it felt like MU players were actually not playing seriously.

It really feels that the connection between the players and the manager is broken.

When it happens on a whole team and not just one player, it's the manager fault.

All in all, Moyes does a poor job and is blind to what and where he's wrong. Medias are not helping.

If MU is not in CL next season while keeping Moyes, then I don't know what to say. No manager should keep the job after a a failure as big as that.

 

[S7_MUFC]

Moyes should be sacked ASAP....People keep blaming the players but we would've been better off if we'd started with Adnan and Kagawa instead of Valencia and Young....The lack of movement from players is clearly down to Moyes' tactics....RVP said he was not allowed to come deep to collect the ball and teammates kept occupying his space......It's almost like he picks the team like a 12 year old playing Fifa...He probably picks Young and Valencia for the same reason we use them on Fifa............... I still think we can play decent football with a new manager and I think it's absolutely essential we get someone who's not obsessed with wingers....

 

[Flavia]

Since the beginning of the season it was clear where this was going. I don't get why he wasn't sacked already. He's not up for the job. The longer he stays, the worse for Utd.

 

[suckabov]

The way players are talking about him or having disguised digs at him in interviews (like RVP recently) is more worrying than the club's form imo. After a reign like Fergie's it would be hard for any coach to take over and create something new from scratch, so you could argue that Moyes deserves the benefit of the doubt in the first season. But he's obviously not accepted by the team and players, and that's a no-go.
I doubt he will be sacked though as long as Fergie has anything to say.

 

[S7_MUFC]

The way players are talking about him or having disguised digs at him in interviews (like RVP recently) is more worrying than the club's form imo. After a reign like Fergie's it would be hard for any coach to take over and create something new from scratch, so you could argue that Moyes deserves the benefit of the doubt in the first season. But he's obviously not accepted by the team and players, and that's a no-go.
I doubt he will be sacked though as long as Fergie has anything to say.

I think his compensation package is a bigger factor in him not being sacked than Fergie...It could easily be higher than 20 million if no performance related clauses are included.......

 

[Bertus]

The way players are talking about him or having disguised digs at him in interviews (like RVP recently) is more worrying than the club's form imo. After a reign like Fergie's it would be hard for any coach to take over and create something new from scratch, so you could argue that Moyes deserves the benefit of the doubt in the first season. But he's obviously not accepted by the team and players, and that's a no-go.
I doubt he will be sacked though as long as Fergie has anything to say.

Nice for Ferguson, but good luck to Moyes in luring WClass player to MU after his terrible season and if MU has no CL next year.

And as i said, some journalists defend Moyes saying that "when you're new, it's hard to do good during the first year", FFS, Everton's New coach is doing BETTER than Moyes so far.

If I follow the terrible logic of Moyes' defenders, Everton should be last in the PL ranking right now since Moyes left them.

 

[Bertus]

I think his compensation package is a bigger factor in him not being sacked than Fergie...It could easily be higher than 20 million if no performance related clauses are included.......

Paying 20M to replace Moyes is still better than having to pay 300M to replace the whole team because every current MU players hate him.

I would never accept those who think RvP is just crap for example. He does crap because the manager is a piece of sh*t.

 

[suckabov]

Nice for Ferguson, but good luck to Moyes in luring WClass player to MU after his terrible season and if MU has no CL next year.

And as i said, some journalists defend Moyes saying that "when you're new, it's hard to do good during the first year", FFS, Everton's New coach is doing BETTER than Moyes so far.

If I follow the terrible logic of Moyes' defenders, Everton should be last in the PL ranking right now since Moyes left them.

Yeah, the transfer window will be funny, doubt Moyes won't be able to attract any of the players he's after and additionally might have to deal with an exodus of players like RVP.

What annoys me the most is his lack of self-criticism, that "we were just unlucky" bs after every match. He's done some good work at Everton but this task is too big for him really.

 

[Bertus]

Yeah, the transfer window will be funny, doubt Moyes won't be able to attract any of the players he's after and additionally might have to deal with an exodus of players like RVP.

What annoys me the most is his lack of self-criticism, that "we were just unlucky" bs after every match. He's done some good work at Everton but this task is too big for him really.

That "we're just unlucky" was sad to me, because he's so blind that some people who had some sympathy to him start to get annoyed by him now.

Moyes has no self-criticism because, IMO, he thinks he's good because Ferguson chose him.

As for the transfer window, it cracks me everytime we (psg fans) see people from MU scouting PSG players like Cavani and Verratti here because beside the fact that PSG will not let them go, dunno what Moyes can do to lure them.

If the rumor about Ferguson calling Laurent Blanc to try to convince PSG to sell Cavani is true, it just proves how Moyes is so retarded and crap that MU has to "use" Fergy to try to lure players, because Moyes is just an handicap right now.

(and it was for nothing if true, because Blanc is not a manager, he's just a coach that has no say on who should stay or leave at PSG concerning Star Players like Cavani or Ibra. So Fergy can call Blanc all he wants, it's with President Nasser that he will have to deal with. And Nasser was always clear so far, PSG doesn't sell its stars.)