Marc Bartra

Agreed. A team should have 4 or 5 cb's, we have four. The only real concern is puyol, who is very often injured these days and may take time to get back on track. He's the real reason we need a cb , because when we have 5 cbs around and fit some will barely get any playing time
 

Barcaman

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I don't mean to rain on a parade here but we have to realize recent matches weren't that demanding, except Celtic maybe.
Plus, in all probability Bartra only gotten a chance because Tata had noone else to pair up with Pique. And Tata said himself, that he doesn't like rotations at center of defense.

I predict, now that Puyol and Mascherano are getting back, Bartra will fall back again and play mostly in Copa.
What I would like to see is Pique getting rested/benched from time to time. Would keep him more motivated and we'd see Bartra getting valuable playing time.
 

Antimadridista1

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What we need is a left centre back, someone who can take Puyi's place because I think that Pique & Bartra are "good enough" (particularly the second) to take the job for the next years.
Koscielny would be perfect imo.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
What we need is a left centre back, someone who can take Puyi's place because I think that Pique & Bartra are "good enough" (particularly the second) to take the job for the next years.
Koscielny would be perfect imo.

Koscielny would be a dream signing; he's been my second favorite behind Thiago Silva who will never happen. If Bartra is up to task, getting a defensive LB or RB (depends who you want to stick with, Alba or Alves) who can also fill in as a CB should be priority, not a CB. The biggest problem with our defending is using two wingbacks, not our center defense.
 
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Learo

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Koscielny would be a dream signing; he's been my second favorite behind Thiago Silva who will never happen. If Bartra is up to task, getting a defensive LB or RB (depends who you want to stick with, Alba or Alves) who can also fill in as a CB should be priority, not a CB. The biggest problem with our defending is using two wingbacks, not our center defense.

One thing is for sure, our signing has to come from the overrated premier league.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
One thing is for sure, our signing has to come from the overrated premier league.

What does your opinion of the Premier League have to do with the quality of a specific player? Your comment was useless; try a little harder next time.

abual- do you watch Arsenal? If you did, you'd know that Koscielny is a beast- reads game well, tall, incredibly fast and is strong. Arsenal's defense looks completely different without him. He's been in great form last year and so far this season. We'd be lucky to have him,
 

jamrock

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how many players have we signed from arsenal that look a beast with them then just turn out to be at the most good for us, like one/two
 
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beautifulgame

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What does your opinion of the Premier League have to do with the quality of a specific player? Your comment was useless; try a little harder next time.

abual- do you watch Arsenal? If you did, you'd know that Koscielny is a beast- reads game well, tall, incredibly fast and is strong. Arsenal's defense looks completely different without him. He's been in great form last year and so far this season. We'd be lucky to have him,

the point is they are priced much higher than good players from other leagues.
 

BarçAjax8

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Koscielny would be a dream signing; he's been my second favorite behind Thiago Silva who will never happen. If Bartra is up to task, getting a defensive LB or RB (depends who you want to stick with, Alba or Alves) who can also fill in as a CB should be priority, not a CB. The biggest problem with our defending is using two wingbacks, not our center defense.

I agree. Personally I'd like us to get 2 CBs & a defensively solid RB allowing Alba to be our new Alves.
The 2 CBs are to replace the legend Puyol who's in the twilight of his career and Pique who next to Bartra looks to have really lost the basics of defending. A good example came against Valladolid with 2 similar plays in the first half... Valla plays a through ball and one of our CBs are forced to hold off an attacker 1v1. While Bartra chased down the ball, stood his ground, contained the attacker and won the ball... Pique let the ball roll past him (his long legs are useless), he continued to back up and allowed the forward to get to our box and then even with Adriano/Busquets closing in he allowed a deadly pass to be made for an open shot. Pique's idea of defending is going to ground and other "last ditch" defending tactics.

CB: Buy Mangala & Promote either Bagnack or Edgar Ie
RB: I actually can't think of right footed Abidal at the moment. Maybe Zabaleta for his similar build, tenacity/aggression and rocket shot.
 
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Messi+Eto

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All this talk about selling Alves and making Alba our single attacking WB, is arrant rubbish! We should first put into consideration the amount of assists from Alves when compared to Alba's. Its obvious who is better attacking wise. Yes Alba is more skilful, faster and has a better eye for goals, but he is just as shitty defending as Alves is. IMO I'd keep them both and ask them to build an understanding. . . When one goes forward the other stays back! Puyol, Valdes or even Pique can ensure that this happens.

BTW, as much as I like Batra and do think he is a much better CB now, I still think we should buy one more CB and promote Bagnack
 

Paganinisrvnge

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All this talk about selling Alves and making Alba our single attacking WB, is arrant rubbish! We should first put into consideration the amount of assists from Alves when compared to Alba's. Its obvious who is better attacking wise. Yes Alba is more skilful, faster and has a better eye for goals, but he is just as shitty defending as Alves is. IMO I'd keep them both and ask them to build an understanding. . . When one goes forward the other stays back! Puyol, Valdes or even Pique can ensure that this happens.

BTW, as much as I like Batra and do think he is a much better CB now, I still think we should buy one more CB and promote Bagnack

Finally someone else shares this opinion. Alba only looks better defending sometimes because he's younger and faster so he can recuperate better when we're hit on the counter. I like Alba a lot but people act like he's Phillip Lahm while Dani Alves is as bad as Arbeloa.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
Finally someone else shares this opinion. Alba only looks better defending sometimes because he's younger and faster so he can recuperate better when we're hit on the counter. I like Alba a lot but people act like he's Phillip Lahm while Dani Alves is as bad as Arbeloa.
Well, that's precisely the reason people reckon we should offload Alves, hold on to Alba and bring in a defensive RB to suit him better!!

Regarding Alves' defensie abilities he's a monster there's no kidding... But his penchant for attacking combined with his deteriorating pace just makes him dispensable!!
 

Pepe Silvia

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Bartra's eagerness and youthful exuberance is much needed considering how stale the rest of the defenders have become. I still think Alves and Alba are great for this team (a very unpopular opinion on here) but aside from that I'd like to see how Bartra fairs in a few weeks against RM. He's done well for us this season so far. Tata shows a lot of trust in his players.
 

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