DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Using google translate,
PSG have not accepted our offer of 25m + Dani Alves despite both players being keen to join the clubs. Nasser is not willing to accept it yet and more meetings are planned in the next days.
Marquinhos
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Using google translate,
PSG have not accepted our offer of 25m + Dani Alves despite both players being keen to join the clubs. Nasser is not willing to accept it yet and more meetings are planned in the next days.
Bertus
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instinct
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Thanks 
wouldn't be good. I can imagine that Nasser is a very good negotiator and will probably ask for an insane amount and considering our desperation we have to overpay then..
wouldn't be good. I can imagine that Nasser is a very good negotiator and will probably ask for an insane amount and considering our desperation we have to overpay then..
Bertus
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So, to me it sounds like :
- Sport gets ahead of themselves and heard about Barca's offer and published that PSG accepted it without actually knowing if PSG did or not.
- It confirms what i thought till now, Marquinhos is not against joining Barcelona (well TS seemed to not be against it either last summer tho. Saying he always liked the idea to play with Barca and such, but still)
- Nasser wants Alves but he would prefer to not include Marquinhos in the deal, but Barcelona only wants to swap him with Marquinhos.
- Nasser is against a transfer of Marquinhos (we knew that already, i posted a news about it before RG started)
Dunno how it will end, really. But I still think Nasser will not force Marquinhos to stay if the player really is against the idea of staying at PSG (which no one is sure, but what we know is that HE IS interested by Barcelona offer)
- Sport gets ahead of themselves and heard about Barca's offer and published that PSG accepted it without actually knowing if PSG did or not.
- It confirms what i thought till now, Marquinhos is not against joining Barcelona (well TS seemed to not be against it either last summer tho. Saying he always liked the idea to play with Barca and such, but still)
- Nasser wants Alves but he would prefer to not include Marquinhos in the deal, but Barcelona only wants to swap him with Marquinhos.
- Nasser is against a transfer of Marquinhos (we knew that already, i posted a news about it before RG started)
Dunno how it will end, really. But I still think Nasser will not force Marquinhos to stay if the player really is against the idea of staying at PSG (which no one is sure, but what we know is that HE IS interested by Barcelona offer)
Bertus
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A good negociator that got ***** by Chelsea about paying 60M for a pack of funny hairThanks
I think he just refuses to sell marquinhos because he said many times he recruits young players that would be the stars of PSG in a few years (verratti, marquinhos, etc.)
But he can't force a player to stay. Either he finds a way to change Marcos' mind, or he will have to sell him to Barcelona.
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instinct
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The Luiz transfer didn't come to my mind while I wrote this. I take everything back 
He's under contractual obligation. See BVB-Lewa. And since when did Nasser start ceding to player demands?
Mythical Revolution
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Yes, and he can force Marcos to abide by the contract that was signed, but it makes sense for Nasser to go with the deal, albeit at the best price he can get.
Nasser has a player (Marcos) who has the potential to become a world class CB, but he's not there yet, and he's not going to get there if he can't get enough play time. But with Luiz in the fold he's more likely to spend more time warming the bench than sweating on the field. So as things stand Nasser has just spent 35M on a backup CB who for now is just not good enough.
So it makes sense from Nasser's perspective to do the deal since he gets a player that he supposedly wants (Alves) and recoups part of his investment on a player that he no longer needs; and it certainly makes sense from Marcos' perspective to push for it since he's very likely to be a starter at Barca from the get go.
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Sorry, not convinced.
It doesn't make sense to let go of a highly rated young CB, when one of your 2 starters is 30y.o injury prone, and the other error prone. He'll see enough game time that will facilitate his development, without the pressure of being a starter. By keeping him, not only do PSG retain quality depth, but also a future replacement for T.S, without needing to dip in to the market in a few years.
And if you say that Marcos atm is not good enough for PSG, how is he good enough for Barca then? A club vying for all the available titles have to take in to account both short and long term. So having a 20.yr as an understudy makes more sense. Just like I'd prefer to see him at Barca, as an immediate back-up to a more estd CB, and have him gradually take over.
Egert
Estonian Culé
Easy answer: We just can't buy better players than him right now and he is good enough for us.
He is but apparently Fazio and Mussachio aren't. Barcaforum Logic
We can't buy because we don't want to. Rosell's disciples seem to only rate Brazilian defenders, just like their master. A bid close to 40M (=25+Alves, which is our rumoured bid for Marcos, one which can go up in the future) will get us a quality defender, if we tried.
Xavinho
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If Marquinhos is concerned about playing time I can't see why he'd want to swap PSG for Barca.
At PSG he'll be competing for minutes with a somewhat injury-prone 30-year-old, and a 27-year-old brand new signing who at his last club was deemed enough of a liability in defence that he was shunted up into midfield.
Meanwhile at Barca he'd be looking to take time away from two local lads, one 27 and the other 23, who have both been at the club for years and are very familiar with the team's style of play.
He should also be able to end up on higher wages at PSG.
I wish we'd take a look at players along the lines of Dória or Schär. Younger players who show potential but aren't already at rich clubs.
At PSG he'll be competing for minutes with a somewhat injury-prone 30-year-old, and a 27-year-old brand new signing who at his last club was deemed enough of a liability in defence that he was shunted up into midfield.
Meanwhile at Barca he'd be looking to take time away from two local lads, one 27 and the other 23, who have both been at the club for years and are very familiar with the team's style of play.
He should also be able to end up on higher wages at PSG.
I wish we'd take a look at players along the lines of Dória or Schär. Younger players who show potential but aren't already at rich clubs.
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