Martin Odegaard

[Kohe321]

Maybe so, but afaik none who actually made it at Real. It is a really stupid move. If he wants to play at Hannover or maybe even for Juventus' bench, then it might have been a good decision. Who knows.

Mata, Negredo, Soldado, Lopez all went on to fruitful careers at the top level after leaving Madrid. There are of course examples of the opposite as well, but it's not all bad. And he's a special talent, I am completely sure that this is a great path for him into a successful career at a top level. Whether or not that is at RM in the future is of course unknown, but I think he has what it takes.

 

[DonAK]

I don't share the sentiment that training with Real Madrids first team under Ancelotti could in any way be called "wasted time" for his development, even if you look at the most pessimistic scenario where he doesn't make the cut there in the future and gets sold. Playingtime is important, but even more important is everyday training, and training with RMs first team on a daily basis is an opportunity extremely few players get to experience, let alone a 16 year old in development. His days will be spent breathing football with some of the best players in the world, I can't see how that could be anything but gold for someone of his talent.

RM play in 3 competitions every year, not counting friendlies and club world cup rarities. There will be many posibilities for cameos in smaller matches or late substitutions for him.

Munir trained with the likes of Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Xavi every day and you can see what it did to him. I disagree with the training argument. It's great to train with the first team, but the most important thing for a young player is regular playing time and he won't see that at Real Madrid unless he agrees to spend most of his time with RM Castilla, but for some reason it seems like he has bought into the hype himself and thinks he is good enough for the 1st team already which of course is far away from the truth.

They play in 3 competitions every year, but they already have a great squad tbf and players who are way more established than Martin who are not getting much playing time. For a 16 year old, a few cameos once in a blue moon is not ideal IMO.

 

[raskolnikov]

Remember 'next Raul' Portillo? he was their Bojan. Madrid may be the worst possible choice for a kid like him along with Chelsea and City.
Should have gone to Ajax then to a bigger club at 20/21.

 

[Gasgas]

Remember 'next Raul' Portillo? he was their Bojan. Madrid may be the worst possible choice for a kid like him along with Chelsea and City.
Should have gone to Ajax then to a bigger club at 20/21.

Things dont always work out as we expect them.
I say let's see what plans they have for him first

 

[Kohe321]

Munir trained with the likes of Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Xavi every day and you can see what it did to him. I disagree with the training argument. It's great to train with the first team, but the most important thing for a young player is regular playing time and he won't see that at Real Madrid unless he agrees to spend most of his time with RM Castilla, but for some reason it seems like he has bought into the hype himself and thinks he is good enough for the 1st team already which of course is far away from the truth.

They play in 3 competitions every year, but they already have a great squad tbf and players who are way more established than Martin who are not getting much playing time. For a 16 year old, a few cameos once in a blue moon is not ideal IMO.

The difference between him and Munir is that Munir is 19. As a player who just turned 16, he is still much more in the "development" stage and doesn't have much pressure on him to necessarily play in lots of games just yet. He can take his time and make the most out of trainings. I agree that if he struggles to get any gametime (or does poorly when given gametime) at 19, he will perhaps move on to somewhere he can start regularly. I just think it's a pretty safe choice for a 16 year old to train daily with Real Madrids first team, I have a hard time seeing how he won't get a lot out of it.

It's a very confident move that's for sure, one that absolutely can fail. But then again, no guts no glory right? Let's wait and see. I'm optimistic, and surely wish him the best.

 

[Yannik]

whenever i see this thread being pushed, i automatically assume someone announces his official transfer destination.

 

[Deco 20]

Well it isn't all bad for him. He'll probably get paid quite a bit, so if he ends up injured this is a great choice. If he'd gone to Celtic or Ajax and had a career-ending injury, he'd be left with almost no money and no career. If his career ends now, he'll be able to study without rushing it as he knows he's made the equivalent of working for 15 years or more.

And if Castilla make it to the second division he should get plenty of time in the Segunda División, as well as the opportunity to train with Castilla players every day

 

[Luftstalag14]

Sure it's such a bad move? I'm pretty sure it could be a good move for his career. I hope he does well and gets success there, but if he doesn't, RM does have a decent track record of first team players that developed there but didn't quite make the cut and moved on only to have good careers elsewhere. Training every day with the first team alone will make him progress a lot. I think he has what it takes to eventually become a success story there as well. Let's see!

Still, he won't be getting any meaningful minutes, he will likely be rotting on the bench. Granted, it is valuable watching great players such as Ronaldo, Bale and Isco play, but he needs playing time more than anything else at such a young age. He needs to develop.

I hope he will turn out to be a flop for Real Madrid and get shipped to another club (it won't be us of course) and find success elsewhere, as you said.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Munir trained with the likes of Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Xavi every day and you can see what it did to him. I disagree with the training argument. It's great to train with the first team, but the most important thing for a young player is regular playing time and he won't see that at Real Madrid unless he agrees to spend most of his time with RM Castilla, but for some reason it seems like he has bought into the hype himself and thinks he is good enough for the 1st team already which of course is far away from the truth.

They play in 3 competitions every year, but they already have a great squad tbf and players who are way more established than Martin who are not getting much playing time. For a 16 year old, a few cameos once in a blue moon is not ideal IMO.

Well said Don, agreed 100%.

 

[Bertus]

You guys are harsh. It's almost as if you wish bad things for this kid because he doesn't do what you want him to do.

Because it's down to this. Unless you can read the future, you guys just talk as if he ruined his career already because you guys know it all.

As if signing with Barcelona or Ajax would have made him the future Messi for sure. For all we know if you want to write history before anything happens, he could sign for us and have a terrible career à la Bojan.

 

[Flavia]

Why are so many people worried about which team he'll choose, anyway?

 

[Bertus]

Why are so many people worried about which team he'll choose, anyway?

Because people are butthurt a talent like him doesn't sign with their preferred team.

I bet it's the same in other clubs forums. Mass of people almost wishing him to fail because they are angry at his choice.

 

[Gasgas]

Why are so many people worried about which team he'll choose, anyway?

Because he is a very bright player with bright potential. Everyone is wishing for him to go to their club, and wishes him bad when he goes to another club me thinks

 

[Kohe321]

Yeah. Wishing him to fail because he chose Madrid is a little low-brow, come on.

And the discussion we've had on whether or not he's going to succeed there is kind of pointless anyway. As I said, it's a confident move from his side and it could backfire. But hey, at least he's going for it - if he didn't try he would always have thought "what if" and so on.

I am on the side of thinking a 16 year old of world class talent training daily with the likes of Isco, Kroos, Modric in midfield is going to get a lot out of it, and it makes sense to me as a career path. I might be wrong. I certainly hope he does well, though.

 

[Bertus]

Yeah. Wishing him to fail because he chose Madrid is a little low-brow, come on.

And the discussion we've had on whether or not he's going to succeed there is kind of pointless anyway. As I said, it's a confident move from his side and it could backfire. But hey, at least he's going for it - if he didn't try he would always have thought "what if" and so on.

I am on the side of thinking a 16 year old of world class talent training daily with the likes of Isco, Kroos, Modric in midfield is going to get a lot out of it, and it makes sense to me as a career path. I might be wrong. I certainly hope he does well, though.

For all I know, Carlo Ancelotti is not one to ignore the young talents.

When he was at PSG, he never ignored Verratti, Rabiot etc.

Motta was bright at the time, yet as soon as he saw verratti was a future talent, he gave him playtime.

Same for Rabiot. same for other players.

We don't know what will happen, but come on, having carlo as coach and players like Ronaldo, Bale, Isco and the like to play with is nowhere near the worst start you can have in a pro career.