Mats Hummels

[SwiftGuyver]

I agree but I think the club will keep hold of him for his last season. More of an emotional decision rather than a logical one. We wouldn't get much for him anyway.

 

[Messi+Eto]

SLOOOOOOOW as always, But had a good game.

 

[Robbie]

Would he really be a good fit for Barca? I'd say you guys need more of a Kompany type of CB. Hummels is top class, but would he fit well alongside Pique? The partnership is the most important thing.

 

[Irish_Cules]

Would he really be a good fit for Barca? I'd say you guys need more of a Kompany type of CB. Hummels is top class, but would he fit well alongside Pique? The partnership is the most important thing.

I think everybody is a bit hesitant of signing him because of that very reason. If we do sign him I wouldn't be surprised if we get a young aggressive defender relatively cheap also, such as Inigo Martinez or Abdennour.

 

[Antimadridista1]

What I think about him is that he fit well alongside Subotic who's a tall player, like Pique. We saw that Ferdinand - Vidic, who are two tall players, was one of the best partnership.
Alves - Pique - Hummels - Alba could be very good IMO ; Hummels is playing as a left CB in Dortmund and Kompany isn't. I'm not sure that if he came, he would play at Puyi's place.
Anyway, just bring us a world class CB and it will make our team stronger for sure, and Hummels is one of them.

 

[Irish_Cules]

What I think about him is that he fit well alongside Subotic who's a tall player, like Pique. We saw that Ferdinand - Vidic, who are two tall players, was one of the best partnership.
Alves - Pique - Hummels - Alba could be very good IMO ; Hummels is playing as a left CB in Dortmund and Kompany isn't. I'm not sure that if he came, he would play at Puyi's place.
Anyway, just bring us a world class CB and it will make our team stronger for sure, and Hummels is one of them.

It's not just about height though. Ferdinand and Vidic are both tall but they balance each other in many ways. Vidic is more of an aggressive 'no nonsense' defender where as Rio is the 'classy' defender. Ferdinand also provided the partnership with pace, although he does seem to be slowing down a bit now. Both of them are very good leaders in the defence as well and have good organisational skills.

The potential problem with Pique-Hummels has nothing to do with them both being tall (that's obviously an advantage). It's the fact that they're playing styles are quite similar and they are both pretty slow. Neither of them seem to have great leadership qualities or organisational skills as well which is even more of a problem.

All of this doesn't necessarily mean that Pique and Hummels would not be able to form a strong partnership. Hey, they might form one of the best partnerships in the world. There are enough factors there to be skeptical though.

 

[Messi+Eto]

Would he really be a good fit for Barca? I'd say you guys need more of a Kompany type of CB. Hummels is top class, but would he fit well alongside Pique? The partnership is the most important thing.

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What I think about him is that he fit well alongside Subotic who's a tall player, like Pique. We saw that Ferdinand - Vidic, who are two tall players, was one of the best partnership.
Alves - Pique - Hummels - Alba could be very good IMO ; Hummels is playing as a left CB in Dortmund and Kompany isn't. I'm not sure that if he came, he would play at Puyi's place.
Anyway, just bring us a world class CB and it will make our team stronger for sure, and Hummels is one of them.

You are clearly missing the point here!Height has nothing to do with it. Physicality, aggression and speed is more like it. Hummels isn't fast, aggressive or "physical" during play. . . . So he lacks in all these aspects. Also like Pique Kompany spent his early days playing as a midfielder, even played in the Champions league and is very composed, a good passer and surprisingly . . . .Skillful.

Furthermore, Pique is slow and needs a faster peer.
Pique can't jump. . . We need someone who isn't scared of aerial battles.
Pique lacks that seriousness that Puyol has. . . . Kompnay possesses this quality in abundance. . .

 

[Galning]

Don't triple post dude.. just edit your post.

 

[Co0ter]

Noteworthy post +1



You are clearly missing the point here!Height has nothing to do with it. Physicality, aggression and speed is more like it. Hummels isn't fast, aggressive or "physical" during play. . . . So he lacks in all these aspects. Also like Pique Kompany spent his early days playing as a midfielder, even played in the Champions league and is very composed, a good passer and surprisingly . . . .Skillful.

Furthermore, Pique is slow and needs a faster peer.
Pique can't jump. . . We need someone who isn't scared of aerial battles.
Pique lacks that seriousness that Puyol has. . . . Kompnay possesses this quality in abundance. . .

You have to understand how our team actually plays. We are a high pressure, high possession team. We almost live on their side of the halfway line. The majority of the time we give up goals it's from a counter or it initiates from a set piece. This tells us that we need someone aggressive- a never give up attitude (Puyol) and someone that has pace to deal with counter attacks- a team trying to press quickly through our backline. Hummels has neither of these qualities- so how is he an ideal match? Because he can pass the ball well? We have an entire midfield of beyond world-class players that can do that, we got wingbacks that can do that and we have Messi. We don't need a center back that knows how to hit a can with a ball from 50 yards, we need someone that knows how to do defend and can do it the way we need it.

 

[Hummelsbauer]

It's not just about height though. Ferdinand and Vidic are both tall but they balance each other in many ways. Vidic is more of an aggressive 'no nonsense' defender where as Rio is the 'classy' defender. Ferdinand also provided the partnership with pace, although he does seem to be slowing down a bit now. Both of them are very good leaders in the defence as well and have good organisational skills.

The potential problem with Pique-Hummels has nothing to do with them both being tall (that's obviously an advantage). It's the fact that they're playing styles are quite similar and they are both pretty slow. Neither of them seem to have great leadership qualities or organisational skills as well which is even more of a problem.

All of this doesn't necessarily mean that Pique and Hummels would not be able to form a strong partnership. Hey, they might form one of the best partnerships in the world. There are enough factors there to be skeptical though.

Hummels has no leadership qualities? Just because pretty boy Pique doesn't have them doesn't mean that pretty boy Hummels doesn't have them. He clearly does. He's Dortmund's #1 leader.

 

[DennyCrane]

Hummels has no leadership qualities? Just because pretty boy Pique doesn't have them doesn't mean that pretty boy Hummels doesn't have them. He clearly does. He's Dortmund's #1 leader.

True. But can he lead a defense, let alone a team outside of his comfort zone that is Dortmund ? Will Barca players listen to him when he starts to yell at them or gives tactical/positioning advice ?
Having Puyi as the heart of defense and captain of a team kinda raises the benchmark for leadership abilities. So the question is, is he 'Puyol' enough ?

Hummels is a typical player of his generation: Technically gifted and tactically aware. But he also has the 'german-youth-academy-nice guy-streak', or in short, he lacks the 'heart'. What I mean is:
Is he the player who tackles thorny issues and inconvenient facts in the dressing room, who sees the team effort as more important than his individual image, who is ready to push his teammates to the limits, who is willing to permanently demand the unconditional will to success ? And again, all of this outside his comfort zone.

I presume that you're a Dortmund fan; so when looking for leadership abilities, you need to look no further than Matthias Sammer, Jürgen Kohler, Stefan Reuter or Michael Zorc. Compare their leadership abilities to those of Mats and you'll note the difference.

 

[khaled_a_d]

True. But can he lead a defense, let alone a team outside of his comfort zone that is Dortmund ? Will Barca players listen to him when he starts to yell at them or gives tactical/positioning advice ?
Having Puyi as the heart of defense and captain of a team kinda raises the benchmark for leadership abilities. So the question is, is he 'Puyol' enough ?

Hummels is a typical player of his generation: Technically gifted and tactically aware. But he also has the 'german-youth-academy-nice guy-streak', or in short, he lacks the 'heart'. What I mean is:
Is he the player who tackles thorny issues and inconvenient facts in the dressing room, who sees the team effort as more important than his individual image, who is ready to push his teammates to the limits, who is willing to permanently demand the unconditional will to success ? And again, all of this outside his comfort zone.

I presume that you're a Dortmund fan; so when looking for leadership abilities, you need to look no further than Matthias Sammer, Jürgen Kohler, Stefan Reuter or Michael Zorc. Compare their leadership abilities to those of Mats and you'll note the difference.

Hummels is actually that player ,and he would easily be that player once he settle in Barcelona ,and It isn't like and CB would be able to come and replace Puyol leadership right away
lastly Puyol is once in a generation player IMO ,a player with that heart and leadership ability along being so gr8 as a player ,Maldini and Zanetti are probably the only 2 defenders who had that
don't ask for too much

 

[Youngie]

Hummels is actually that player ,and he would easily be that player once he settle in Barcelona ,and It isn't like and CB would be able to come and replace Puyol leadership right away
lastly Puyol is once in a generation player IMO ,a player with that heart and leadership ability along being so gr8 as a player ,Maldini and Zanetti are probably the only 2 defenders who had that
don't ask for too much

Add Hierro to the list...

 

[Antimadridista1]

Good, isn't it ?

 

[fcbdna]

Good, isn't it ?

He looks so SLOOOW!!! Pace-wise.

You have to understand how our team actually plays. We are a high pressure, high possession team. We almost live on their side of the halfway line. The majority of the time we give up goals it's from a counter or it initiates from a set piece. This tells us that we need someone aggressive- a never give up attitude (Puyol) and someone that has pace to deal with counter attacks- a team trying to press quickly through our backline. Hummels has neither of these qualities- so how is he an ideal match? Because he can pass the ball well? We have an entire midfield of beyond world-class players that can do that, we got wingbacks that can do that and we have Messi. We don't need a center back that knows how to hit a can with a ball from 50 yards, we need someone that knows how to do defend and can do it the way we need it.

Jeez! Did you even read his post? He was talking about Kompany being the ideal defensive partner for Pique.

Hummels is actually that player ,and he would easily be that player once he settle in Barcelona ,and It isn't like and CB would be able to come and replace Puyol leadership right away
lastly Puyol is once in a generation player IMO ,a player with that heart and leadership ability along being so gr8 as a player ,Maldini and Zanetti are probably the only 2 defenders who had that
don't ask for too much

Sorry, I do not believe you. I have been watching the Bundesliga for years now and hardly miss the big games, so I have seen many of his game. Still remember the game we played against Chelsea and conceded that late last minute goal. . . . I can still remember Puyol encouraging the boys and telling them to go on with the game, even when it was obvious we were out! I am Yet to see Hummels in that light. He is not a leader in anyway. A great defender. . . . . But not a leader. Kompany IMO would be the perfect replacement for Puyol. . . . .