Mehdi Benatia

[Ryu Hayabusa]

There is lots of politics involved at Bayern and already this season there have been murmerings about Peps style from those within the club and legends etc.

Not true. It was Beckenbauer and Effenberg of whom neither is employed by Bayern in any way.

 

[ebc_99]

You show extreme bias and cluelessness in all your posts. Bayern not at Barca level? Get off your high horse. We are a club in crisis. Bayern are extremely successful, well run and don't have all the BS politics ruining us.

Your just a self hating cule that is your problem.

Thanks for the laugh.

You don't need to be biased to suggest Bayern is not on Barca's level, they never have been and never will be. There is no argument to be had, how can you suggest that Bayern are as big a club as Barca? It is Real, Barca and then everybody else, why do the likes of Ronaldo, Zidane, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham, Bale, Figo, Neymar etc always come to Spains big 2? It is because they are the 2 greatest clubs in the world, you should know that being a Barca fan and all.

When Ronaldinho joined us we had just finished 6th in La Liga, do you think a player like that would join Bayern if they had just finished 6th? Barca and Real are the only clubs in the world who can attract who they want and only have each other as competition unless the players have money as their main motivation.

That is just the way it is, but what I can't understand is why so called Barca fans think we are not bigger and better than Bayern when everybody else knows it.

 

[barca1899]

You don't need to be biased to suggest Bayern is not on Barca's level, they never have been and never will be. There is no argument to be had, how can you suggest that Bayern are as big a club as Barca? It is Real, Barca and then everybody else, why do the likes of Ronaldo, Zidane, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Beckham, Bale, Figo, Neymar etc always come to Spains big 2? It is because they are the 2 greatest clubs in the world, you should know that being a Barca fan and all.

When Ronaldinho joined us we had just finished 6th in La Liga, do you think a player like that would join Bayern if they had just finished 6th? Barca and Real are the only clubs in the world who can attract who they want and only have each other as competition unless the players have money as their main motivation.

That is just the way it is, but what I can't understand is why so called Barca fans think we are not bigger and better than Bayern when everybody else knows it.

He's a Bayern fan.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

You don't need to be biased to suggest Bayern is not on Barca's level, they never have been and never will be.

Never have been?
You just keep on digging without even realizing it.


btw, that should also be of interest for you, concerning "not even close" etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

Only states the revenue, but it should still give you an idea about how high the horse is that you're sitting on.

 

[Cule4life]

There is lots of politics involved at Bayern and already this season there have been murmerings about Peps style from those within the club and legends etc.

While their president has this season been jailed for tax evasion.

Although to suggest any player just picks Barca or Madrid is wrong and many players have turned them down.

Pep's style is being rightly criticized because he was hammered by Madrid and Bayern had almost no good chances of scoring. Atleast Pep was allowed to do his thing and change the style whereas Tata was forced to back down because we had "49%" possession against Rayo, even though we won 4-0. There is a difference between justified and illogical criticism

Whatever Kaiser says is irrelevant as he's not employed by the club, just like nobody at our club takes Cruyff seriously these days

Your just a self hating cule that is your problem.

No im a realistic cule not living in la la land like you.

European cups- Bayern 5 Barca 4
Domestic titles- Bayern 24 Barca 22
Recent performance in last 5 years- Bayern 1 win 2 finals 1 semis Barca-1 win 3 semis
Revenue- Barca 480m Bayern 430m

So how exactly is Barca more successful than Bayern. More revenue? We no longer have the aura of the best team in the world which would have made us the dream destination of all players. There's more than a decent chance that Benatia would choose to play for Bayern and Pep than Barca and Luis Enrique.

You seem to be living in the past like Xavi and our board. Wake up son its not 2011 anymore

 

[Hamzah]

You don't get it man. Barca is a bigger club in terms of prestige. Although not by much a player would pick Barca over them. We are not talking about who is in a better position now.

When Madrid were in a shit situation they could still attract any player in the world and it's the same for us.

 

[Cule4life]

You don't get it man. Barca is a bigger club in terms of prestige. Although not by much a player would pick Barca over them. We are not talking about who is in a better position now.

When Madrid were in a shit situation they could still attract any player in the world and it's the same for us.

What does "prestige" mean to you? Most players these days only care about money and success in varying proportions. Thats why you have Falcao playing for Monaco. Not saying Benatia is like that but Bayern offers equal if not more chance of success and money to Benatia. Doubt he would care about history (Again Bayern has a pretty good history too). Players live in the present. Do you think he will give up a CL win playing for a small club for a "prestigious" club and no CLs?

Since we have such prestige why didnt Marquinhos or Thiago Silva choose us over PSG who have no history? Players dont care about history these days

And the less spoken about Madrid the better. They can attract players because they have the Spanish banks helping them finance 100mn dollar transfers and massive salaries. 5 of their CLs wins came in the 50's when it was like a friendly tournament, and they are now in the their first final in 12 years. Not to mention extreme bias by referees in the liga. How did they gain "prestige" from this

 

[Hamzah]

You're acting like Barca isn't capable of winning a CL, it's very realistic we could win it especially if Benatia came. We could also offer him the same money and probably more than Bayern. If he wants money only he'd go to someone like PSG. We play in a better league with more star players, and Barcelona is more attractive to live in than Munich. If it came to those two clubs most would choose Barca.

According to you Bayern equals guaranteed CL win while Barca means no trophies, that is bullshit.

 

[Cule4life]

You're acting like Barca isn't capable of winning a CL, it's very realistic we could win it especially if Benatia came. We could also offer him the same money and probably more than Bayern. If he wants money only he'd go to someone like PSG. We play in a better league with more star players, and Barcelona is more attractive to live in than Munich. If it came to those two clubs most would choose Barca.

Dude im not saying that we cant get a CL. I said we have equal chance of winning as Bayern or any other big club. Im just against the attitude that we are "bigger and more prestigious than other clubs and theres no way he wont choose us" kind of attitude which is being exhibited by Xavi, the board and some fans like ebc_99 these days.

But all this is moot because Lord Zubi is not even interested in Benatia and Sideshow Bob is arriving to exacerbate our problems

 

[Trickykid]

Playing for Bayern has its merits. But the city of Barcelona and the star appeal of the top 2 gives us a slight edge. LL is still the home to football's crème de la crème and multiple EU and WC winners. Regardless of a player profile, playing in a team graced by possibly football's GOAT is a rare opportunity to pass up, I would think. And our need for acute defensive reinforcements is common knowledge. So any high-profile defender if communicated well, should reciprocate in kind.

I'm hoping Lucho remembers Benatia from his time in Italy (and that he still follows his former club). He can just be the impetus needed to start our Benatia offensive.

You're probably right that we have a slight edge compared to Bayern, but don't you think that Pep has a huge draw appeal? If the possibility of being tutored and coached by one of Pep Guardiola or Luis Enrique (if he indeed comes, that is) arises, I'm certain that most players would take that into serious consideration.

I hear your argument regarding our need for defensive reinforcement, but that also makes it a rather daunting prospect of trying to shore up a defense that's so often left open for counters. Puyi did it of course, and Piqué to a lesser extent in periods, but I don't think it's easy to look good as a cb in our backline - far from it.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Thing is, one can't really measure "prestige". Any assumption in that matter is completely biased and solely depends on a person's point of view, experience, knowledgem preferences etc., that is true for the one making the assumption as well as the player who has to decide which club he should join. Consequently, the whole disucussion is completely pointless.

 

[Hamzah]

Thing is, one can't really measure "prestige". Any assumption in that matter is completely biased and solely depends on a person's point of view, experience, knowledge etc., that is true for the one making the assumption as well as the player who has to decide which club he should join. Consequently, the whole disucussion is completely pointless.

Well it's safe to say Madrid is the biggest, so while I get what you're saying it's clear some clubs are bigger than others. Bayern and Barca are on the same level but Barca has many things in its favour for a players decision compared to Bayern IMO. Though I can see why he might pick Bayern because of pep and the fact they have a great squad (same for Barca though).

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Well it's safe to say Madrid is the biggest, so while I get what you're saying it's clear some clubs are bigger than others. Bayern and Barca are on the same level but Barca has many things in its favour for a players decision compared to Bayern IMO. Though I can see why he might pick Bayern because of pep and the fact they have a great squad (same for Barca though).

btw, also the city of Munich is actually also a plus over the city of Barcelona, contrary to zanela's earlier claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...s-What-makes-Munich-worlds-liveable-city.html

 

[raskolnikov]

btw, also the city of Munich is actually also a plus over the city of Barcelona, contrary to zanela's earlier claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...s-What-makes-Munich-worlds-liveable-city.html

No way, Munich is kind of boring imo, Barcelona is the greatest city in Europe.

 

[Irish_Cules]

Munich is such a good city. At least it is during Oktoberfest anyway.