Mohamed Salah

serghei

Senior Member
4 or 6 years? 5 years ago we looked like the best team in the world. Look were we got few years later.
Klopp has lost his touch before in BVB, and he will do it again sooner or later at Liverpool. Their core players are getting olkder.

What is more is how this team will handle their older key pieces.
Liverpool will have a decision to make, acting "club is bigger than any player" looks nice and everything for fans, but not for agents. You do this and you will have a Chelsea situation when top performers like Hazard & Courtois plan their way out with refusing to renew. If you try over win things, you are bound to lose.

Obviously our own faults isn't the way to it, you can't hand 5 or more players long term contracts to their mid 30's. But they have to be selective, and sometimes it is worth it to have a player overpaid for couple of years if it means you get 3 great years before it.

Sure, 4-5 years is a long cycle. But they can do it if they make good decisions when on top.

Liverpool have a great ace up their sleeve, and that's Klopp. If he stays and is committed long term, and if they please him, he will be the answer against players becoming too strong in the locker-room.

At Barca, the growth of player-power beyond a reasonable level was in tandem with a weak board and weak managers. With better management from top to bottom you can prevent or at least minimize the damage of that.
 
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Birdy

Senior Member
They are selective. Van Dijk is about to renew, despite his injury.
But different positions have different requirements. The amount of movement modern football requires from a LW or wide forward like Salah is immense, much more than a modern CB. So different standards are already in place.

I think Klopp will leave in 2024, but by then everything will be ready for his successor, which I am sure the Liverpool scouting and analytics department will have meticulously searched and identified.
 

serghei

Senior Member
They are selective. Van Dijk is about to renew, despite his injury.
But different positions have different requirements. The amount of movement modern football requires from a LW or wide forward like Salah is immense, much more than a modern CB. So different standards are already in place.

I think Klopp will leave in 2024, but by then everything will be ready for his successor, which I am sure the Liverpool scouting and analytics department will have meticulously searched and identified.

Exactly. Liverpool would want to avoid big, long contracts to older players in positions which are required to give a lot in terms of speed, work-rate, stamina. If they can avoid that, and to what cost, we'll see in the next 2-3 seasons.

Decline is inevitable at some point, but how steep and how long it lasts depends on the quality of the management in place. Not all teams decline like Barca. From smashing teams in Europe, to losing 0-3, 0-4, 0-3, 0-4, 2-8.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Mohamed Salah's game by numbers vs. Man City:

11 duels won (=most)
9 touches in opp box (most)
5 take-ons completed (most)
4 tackles made (most)
3 shots
2 Big Chances created
1 assist
1 goal

This could actually be a career year for him
 

fergus90

Senior Member
He?s been sensational so far this season, walks in any starting 11 with ease.

His goal today was incredible.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
i've only just realized salah joined liverpool the same window neymar joined psg

one came back to the PL to prove doubters wrong after a failed spell, the other faded into memes, shadows and irrelevancy. the career trajectory and stats difference between them is insane.

and they're both the same age. what a differernce the mindset makes.

i'm not gonna even get started on dembele :lol:
 

malvolio

Senior Member
i've only just realized salah joined liverpool the same window neymar joined psg

one came back to the PL to prove doubters wrong after a failed spell, the other faded into memes, shadows and irrelevancy. the career trajectory and stats difference between them is insane.

and they're both the same age. what a differernce the mindset makes.

i'm not gonna even get started on dembele :lol:

Meh, nobody gives a fuck about Salah(aside Liverpool or African fans). It's not as if he won the Ballon D'or or something.

Neymar just didn't fully fullfill his potential. Otherwise he will always be remembered as a great player, unlike Salah who doesn't have the same exposure.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
Meh, nobody gives a fuck about Salah(aside Liverpool or African fans). It's not as if he won the Ballon D'or or something.

Neymar just didn't fully fullfill his potential. Otherwise he will always be remembered as a great player, unlike Salah who doesn't have the same exposure.

plenty of people will remember him. he'll go down as a PL legend like drogba and henry. and many people remember those guys.

he doesn't get much attention on this forum like most non-city PL players. i see him everywhere on social media more frequently than here.

and that wasn't even my point. if everything was based on legacy than Ronaldo would go down as the GOAT simply because of his PR game. and we know how much of a meltdown that would cause you in 50 years :lol:
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Should have said "Neymar will always be remembered as the greater player".

Of course Salah will be remembered.

Neymar is also relevant at international level, even he didn't win anything major with Brazil.
 
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Leo_Messi

New member
Salah is not lacking media exposure at all, lol. He is a huge figure in the Arab/Muslim world and the main star of Liverpool which is a heawyweight in terms of having a truly global fanbase. Sporting wise he has been way ahead of Neymar since 2017. Anyway exposure should not matter at all. Beckham used to have more exposure than the greatest footballers of the time when he was wasting his time playing for freaking LA Galaxy in the MLS.

Salah is a world class player and I recall me wanting us to buy him and writing it on this very forum during his loan spell for Viola in early 2015. What a bargain he has been for Liverpool. If Liverpool won?t win anything again I could see him wanting to leave England altogether for a new experience. I recall him always having nice words to say about Spain.
 
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Xaviniesta

Senior Member
Should have said "Neymar will always be remembered as the greater player".

Of course Salah will be remembered.

Neymar is also relevant at international level, even he didn't win anything major with Brazil.

everyone knows neymar is more famous.

my point was he wasted his prime unlike salah.
 

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