unnecessary competition? if hes not better than Alcacer after his loan then why would we play him? He's going on loan to develop, if he doesnt develop to at least the standard Alcacer is then we have no need for him. There is no such thing as unnecessary competition at a big club like Barca, the best players always play.
Munir El Haddadi
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unnecessary competition? if hes not better than Alcacer after his loan then why would we play him? He's going on loan to develop, if he doesnt develop to at least the standard Alcacer is then we have no need for him. There is no such thing as unnecessary competition at a big club like Barca, the best players always play.
Messi983
Senior Member
I might be in minority but I think sending Munir on loan is actually the way of club to tell him they count on him in the future (in 2+ years) more than if they let him stay here for now and root on the bench most of the time. He won't get enough playing time (at least not as much as he needs) with MSN ahead of him even if we don't buy Paco and he stays as our 4th forward option. He's 20 and needs to play regularly every week over the next two seasons if we want him to develop to his full potential. Then we'll see how good he'll be if/when we bring him back. Buying Paco won't affect him. If he develops good in Valencia (like Denis had in Villarreal) or another club he can stil have future at Barça. If he can't make it at smaller club then he'll probably never had potential to be longterm Barça player anyway.
At the same time I think right now Paco is better, more experienced and can be more useful as bench option. In 2-3 years Suarez will probably leave and we can have Paco and (hopefully improved) Munir coming back from loan/buy back to fight out their positions as Suarez's replacement. Of course there is no guarantee that anyone of them will really be good enough to succeed Luisito but I think one of them will be good enough to at least be a backup (which we also need) to Dybala or whoever we'll buy then.
But if we can get our future "9" now for 30M (Paco) or by sending Munir on loan and get him more playing time we can save a lot of money in the future when we'll probably have to pay 80M or more for Suarez's replacement when we'll need that.
In the meantime we still probably have 3 or 4 years of Messi (and probably 2 years of Iniesta) at top level ahead and we should do everything to get the best possible team around him and win as many titles as possible before he'll decline. We've missed some of his best years because of bad planning and we can't do that again.
I love La Masia and have high hopes for most of our youngsters but as Denis example shows (at least so far) sometimes it's better for them to go out there, get La Liga experience in another club under different circumstances and come back better and stronger. Sending players out on loan/buy-back shouldn't be seen as giving up on them forever but as a way to help them develop better than they could (sitting on the bench) here while keeping our first team competitive and try to win as much trophies as possible.
At the same time I think right now Paco is better, more experienced and can be more useful as bench option. In 2-3 years Suarez will probably leave and we can have Paco and (hopefully improved) Munir coming back from loan/buy back to fight out their positions as Suarez's replacement. Of course there is no guarantee that anyone of them will really be good enough to succeed Luisito but I think one of them will be good enough to at least be a backup (which we also need) to Dybala or whoever we'll buy then.
But if we can get our future "9" now for 30M (Paco) or by sending Munir on loan and get him more playing time we can save a lot of money in the future when we'll probably have to pay 80M or more for Suarez's replacement when we'll need that.
In the meantime we still probably have 3 or 4 years of Messi (and probably 2 years of Iniesta) at top level ahead and we should do everything to get the best possible team around him and win as many titles as possible before he'll decline. We've missed some of his best years because of bad planning and we can't do that again.
I love La Masia and have high hopes for most of our youngsters but as Denis example shows (at least so far) sometimes it's better for them to go out there, get La Liga experience in another club under different circumstances and come back better and stronger. Sending players out on loan/buy-back shouldn't be seen as giving up on them forever but as a way to help them develop better than they could (sitting on the bench) here while keeping our first team competitive and try to win as much trophies as possible.
Professor Chaos
New member
He should go on loan like Denis. If he improves there will be no reason to not buy him back in the next 2 years.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
MARCA says Munir's future at the club is not certain, PSG and Schalke want him and presumably on a permanent basis. I hope we will tell them to take a hike.
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jamrock
Senior Member
http://www.espnfc.us/club/barcelona...haddadi-could-explain-current-club-philosophy
decent article explaining why he should stay, its much bigger than is he good enough or will he have time to develop
decent article explaining why he should stay, its much bigger than is he good enough or will he have time to develop
barcafan161
Active member
question is does he just need more time to develop and staying here will hold him back or should he be given the chance given the goals he has scored lately?
Barcilliant
Senior Member
I think he should be given the chance. He has clearly improved and should get more minutes. The problem with loans imo is the fact that you need to get the right club. We play plenty of games plus the players have international duty. There is a place for him here. The only club I would loan to is Sevilla. Valencia are a mess.
FCBarca
Mike the Knife
It's a bedrock principle of this club, we've lost our way in that regard - big time
Nucky
Senior Member
Thats why it would be wise to loan him to Valencia where he can play regulary.. It would be a big mistake if we sell him, loan on the other hand isn't a bad idea for a season or two..
Topolino
Gemusesuppe
Selling with buyback gives Valencia more of a reason to develop him and should motivate Munir to work even harder. If he fails he stays which is bad for both Valencia and the player. If he succeeds he'll give Valencia a good 1-2 seasons and Valencia get more money.
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