Nelson Semedo

[clemente]

Roberto played in midfield for years, on the bench. Watching other midfielders play, lol.
Does he have 20 matches as a CM in total in the last 4 senior years?

Moving Rakitic, adding Roberto.
And moving Roberto, adding Semedo are 2 huge changes in the team.

Again, let's shake the team and play a guy as a CM who has 20 senior matches as a CM and a RB who has 1 senior season on his back.

Sounds promising. For Manager games, FIFA, PES and similar.
Chemistry, experience, mental strength, short term impact and short term results. How about those?

Semedo is shaky because some posters are defending him: he is scared because EV doesn't trust him.
Well, the whole forum don't trust to Luis Suarez.
EV doesn't trust to Denis, Gomes, Arda, Deulofeu, Paco, Mascherano, Vermaelen, Digne, Cillessen etc.

Then any of them, when they actually get the chance, should play like a frightened deer?
Cillessen doesn't play for Months. He steps in and plays like a master.
Vermaelen hasn't played for 1-2 years (right?), he steps in El Classico and plays like Maldini.

Semedo steps in and creates 3-4 shits in the first 120 seconds.

Yes, he will be good one day, who knows?
Until then he should try to improve his mistakes and slowly get more and more minutes.
He can't earn minutes ONLY because he is young and because we paid him 50 Millions.
Amount of his minutes till now are equal to how much he showed on the field.
Actually, he even got way more minutes than how much he deserved for now.

I don't have anything against Semedo. I think that he could be a good player one day (unlike Denis or Gomes).
But again, he has to earn his chances and more trust.

And again, you would kick out Rakitic, who is improving lately and who PROVED in the past that he could be a valuable starter, for Semedo, who ISN'T improving currently and who hasn't shown till now that he could be a valuable starter.

Too many of you are too blinded with those "what ifs", "he could turn into something", "he is young".
In this moment, at +14, playing Rakitic as a CM and Roberto as a RB (with Semedo getting some minutes) makes perfect sense.
Anything else would be actually quite illogical and crazy by EV.

Wish I could unread this pile of dogshit, Semedo doesn't deserve to play? Roberto hasn't played 20 matches in midfield? Rakitic is improving? You need a reality check, EV is just being extremely safe by literally never rotating, do you think pep would also bench Semedo and play Rakitic every game? Roberto isn't a RB, its emberrassing to compare him to someone like Alba, of course he does a good job defending and passing but he doesn't have half of the fullback traits, as soon as Semedo steps on the pitch we start making sense. He is clearly a midfielder and every single impressive thing he has done was through midfield and would have been the same if he was playing in Rakitic position. In the first half we were getting absolutely walked over, it was pathetic to compare Rakitic to any of their midfielders, it's a common sense that Roberto there would have been way more alive, he is getting too much credit for that run before our first goal, it was just Kovacic that let him go just so he could mark Messi.

 

[Blaugrana Bull]

Did not like the transfer, then I was surprised how well he started but now I am back to disliking him. Confidence is a quality too and a player who wants to succeed at Barca needs to be ready anytime.

 

[henias]

Lmao BBZ8800 and his usual BS. He didnt even play the last 2 games yet he came on and were supporting Messi and Roberto in attack and defense better than Rakitic and has the pace to drive forward and even almost scored a goal. Unlike Raktic who fails to even dribble past Kroos lmao.

Pretty damn good for someone who is "shaky". Don't come back begging for Semedo if Roberto needs support defensively and all u have is a Rakitic who just stand and watch and stroll at his own turtle pace.

 

[Ousmane Dembélé]

I get panic attacks every time a winger is running 1v1 at him.

 

[serghei]

I get panic attacks every time a winger is running 1v1 at him.

Odd. 1 vs 1 is really one of his strong points. His positioning and timing are a lot more worrying, then his ability in 1 vs 1 where his speed and athleticism make him a very tough RB to beat in an individual duel.

I'd say him and Roberto have different skills at this moment. Roberto is more combinative and understands our game better and also seems to be smarter on the field, but is weaker in individual duels, while Semedo doesn't understand how we play very very well yet, but is faster, stronger, and better individually in defense, while also more predisposed to errors due to poor positioning and poor reading of the game.

We need to play them both, so as when one is off form, the other will step in. Roberto is playing better atm, so he rightfully starts the bigger games. But, for example, next game vs Levante at home, Semedo has to start. When you have to good players on one spot, you give game time to both. It's not Alves and Montoya anymore, where one is a 9.5 player and the other a 6.

 

[Behrox]

Odd. 1 vs 1 is really one of his strong points. His positioning and timing are a lot more worrying, then his ability in 1 vs 1 where his speed and athleticism make him a very tough RB to beat in an individual duel.

I'd say him and Roberto have different skills at this moment. Roberto is more combinative and understands our game better and also seems to be smarter on the field, but is weaker in individual duels, while Semedo doesn't understand how we play very very well yet, but is faster, stronger, and better individually in defense, while also more predisposed to errors due to poor positioning and poor reading of the game.

We need to play them both, so as when one is off form, the other will step in. Roberto is playing better atm, so he rightfully starts the bigger games. But, for example, next game vs Levante at home, Semedo has to start. When you have to good players on one spot, you give game time to both. It's not Alves and Montoya anymore, where one is a 9.5 player and the other a 6.

he is good 1v1 but the problem is that the wing battles are rarely 1v1 due to overlapping wingers being a very popular strategy and every time I've seen Semedo in such a position he has failed to track the overlap leading to a dangerous attack for the opposition

 

[raki]

His playing clause affects the continuity of his games. He´s been good.

 

[Potroh]

has the pace to drive forward and even almost scored a goal.

Does it really matter if Semedo's nutmeg-shot somehow got deflected on Navas's achilles?
It wasn't even a "save" as such, it was mere luck!
So in my eyes it was 99% of a goal...

 

[te amo barca]

Does it really matter if Semedo's nutmeg-shot somehow got deflected on Navas's achilles?
It wasn't even a "save" as such, it was mere luck!
So in my eyes it was 99% of a goal...

Yeah then the majority of gk saves are just due to “luck” as you put it. It is strange because a former player like you should definitely know that positioning is one of the most important things for a gk.

 

[Windhook]

Well, yeah, the usual talk. A couple of poor performances and lets transfer list this guy, that guy. That's not how it works. If it did Andre Gomes would be playing in Thailand by now.

 

[El Barcelona]

Thailand

 

[Potroh]

Yeah then the majority of gk saves are just due to “luck” as you put it. It is strange because a former player like you should definitely know that positioning is one of the most important things for a gk.

If according to you it is a "skill" of a goalkeeper to merely touch it with his ankle, when the ball which already BEHIND him, then you are right, it is "positioning".
Most probably - in your world - goalkeepers even seriously practice that kind of "positioning"...
Great thought and great addition!

 

[te amo barca]

If according to you it is a "skill" of a goalkeeper to merely touch it with his ankle, when the ball which already BEHIND him, then you are right, it is "positioning".
Most probably - in your world - goalkeepers even seriously practice that kind of "positioning"...
Great thought and great addition!

Yeah because a gk can’t use his ankle to make a save? Did that ankle have to just disappear then? By your logic saves are only legit if the gk fully expects to save the shot with a particularly predetermined body part in his mind. You neglect that many saves in 1 on 1 situations occur when the goalkeeper simply closes the angle, rushes forward from the line, tries to make himself as big as possible and hopes for the best. It’s a standard technique for 1vs1s. Should we count all such saves as mere luck then? Of course not. That’s a skill. It is about the timing and positioning.
Keepers make saves even with their faces, crotches, anything in such situations.

 

[Potroh]

You neglect that many saves in 1 on 1 situations occur when the goalkeeper simply closes the angle, rushes forward from the line, tries to make himself as big as possible and hopes for the best. It’s a standard technique for 1vs1s.

Sure... When the goalkeeper is in his knees, the ball has already passed between his legs, but slightly, and before all accidentally touches the ankle behind him? Well, if according to you it is still a skill, that can be practiced, then you are seriously mistaken.
So is it a "standard technique to "hope" that a body-part BEHIND the GK would make the ball bounce away?
Sorry, but if you are so confidently sure about that, you have never ever actually seen a standard training for keepers...

In this game there are skills, movements, situations that can NEVER be actually practiced, and hence nobody forces those ill-fated experiments on players, but no problem, if you think those situations as being "standard". They are "standard" but just according to your own imagination...

 

[te amo barca]

Sure... When the goalkeeper is in his knees, the ball has already passed between his legs, but slightly, and before all accidentally touches the ankle behind him? Well, if according to you it is still a skill, that can be practiced, then you are seriously mistaken.
So is it a "standard technique to "hope" that a body-part BEHIND the GK would make the ball bounce away?
Sorry, but if you are so confidently sure about that, you have never ever actually seen a standard training for keepers...

In this game there are skills, movements, situations that can NEVER be actually practiced, and hence nobody forces those ill-fated experiments on players, but no problem, if you think those situations as being "standard". They are "standard" but just according to your own imagination...

Of course such situations as Navas’ save are unorthodox. But that was not luck.