Nelson Semedo

[Potroh]

None of your ideas that competition is bad for players is supported.
Not even sure what your argument is anymore to be honest as just waffling.

Truly sorry... You are simply hopeless, probably besides somehow maintaining your own ideas...

But let me finally tell you a key sentence, that those top coaches all know and strictly follow:
The less competition takes place inside a team, the more energy remains to compete against your opponents, because you should compete with them, not within your own team...

 

[JamDav1982]

Truly sorry... You are simply hopeless, probably besides somehow maintaining your own ideas...

But let me finally tell you a key sentence, that those top coaches all know and strictly follow:
The less competition takes place inside a team, the more energy remains to compete against your opponents, because you should compete with them, not within your own team...

Nope top coaches want competition and no player to feel completely safe in their position no matter how they play.

Truly sorry but you are ideas dont add up or are used by top coaches.

Pep this season...

"All of them are going to play. Last season I rotated the team a lot and I will do that again. They will all be involved.

"After that it depends on them and if they accept my decision or not. If they don't accept it, it will be their problem not mine."

Another one...

"Hopefully they will understand that at the big clubs, you cannot have 11 players, so they have to compete with each other.

 

[Alik]

Starting Semedo would be bone-headed.

 

[henias]

No point arguing really, if Valverde is so invested in Roberto then so be it. If he chooses to start Semedo only against big games, then I can tell you the lack of minutes prior to these big games will throw him off completely. Lack of familiarity, muscle memory, conditioning to pressure and stress, will definitely decrease his performance.

I would rather he just start Roberto against Madrid.

So if Semedo does screw up on Saturday, Valverde cannot blame him bcos he chose him to play against big teams instead of using Roberto, since this is his so called "tactical rotations". It will be all on Valverde this weekend and the outcome will show if his planning has worked out all along. Another big test for him will be the Chelsea one.

 

[JamDav1982]

No point arguing really, if Valverde is so invested in Roberto then so be it. If he chooses to start Semedo only against big games, then I can tell you the lack of minutes prior to these big games will throw him off completely. Lack of familiarity, muscle memory, conditioning to pressure and stress, will definitely decrease his performance.

I would rather he just start Roberto against Madrid.

So if Semedo does screw up on Saturday, Valverde cannot blame him bcos he chose him to play against big teams instead of using Roberto, since this is his so called "tactical rotations". It will be all on Valverde this weekend and the outcome will show if his planning has worked out all along. Another big test for him will be the Chelsea one.

He hasnt had any great lack of minutes in games prior against big teams though and has played a lot this season.

If Semedo plays he can be judged on his performance like any other player good or bad.

It is not as if he has been out for months and thrown back in team.

Excuses being made now before a ball is even kicked.

 

[henias]

He hasnt had any great lack of minutes in games prior against big teams though and has played a lot this season.

If Semedo plays he can be judged on his performance like any other player good or bad.

It is not as if he has been out for months and thrown back in team.

If he is bad then he shouldnt play, if Valverde has better options then he should go for the better option. I dont think its fair if u keep defending him if he fails to get the result and blame it on the players. It's the same if he chooses Rakitic or Suarez and if it doesnt work well, then he should switch his tactics or choose some other replacements.

Manager is the boss, yes, if he gets the results then credits will go to him. But if he fails, continually blaming it on the players is still pointless. It can go on seasons after seasons and he could still get the same outcome using the same method.

Yes judge all u want and label him as a bad player but results is still results and if Valverde fails, he fails. Same thing, it's not like Barcelona is a terrible squad either.

 

[JamDav1982]

If he is bad then he shouldnt play, if Valverde has better options then he should go for the better option. I dont think its fair if u keep defending him if he fails to get the result and blame it on the players. It's the same if he chooses Rakitic or Suarez and if it doesnt work well, then he should switch his tactics or choose some other replacements.

Manager is the boss, yes, if he gets the results then credits will go to him. But if he fails, continually blaming it on the players is still pointless. It can go on seasons after seasons and he could still get the same outcome using the same method.

Yes judge all u want and label him as a bad player but results is still results and if Valverde fails, he fails. Same thing, it's not like Barcelona is a terrible squad either.

Dont get what you are trying to say there.

If Semedo gets a chance he should try to take it and play well. He has been out the team for a little over two weeks. The way it is put at times as if he hasnt been in team for months.

Show me once where have labelled Semedo a bad player.

Just every excuse being made for him the moment there is a hint he may play.

 

[henias]

I dont get you either. Semedo isnt out for months but you act like Madrid game is going to be a walk in the park for a struggling player like him.

Of course, Semedo will tries his best, u keep thinking he deliberately put up bad performances and then u'll have the opportunity to blame it on a player. Bcos u seem to be defending Valverde too much.

What I'm trying to say is if he is not fit and not in form for such games, then he shouldn't be on the pitch. His current maximum capability wont be good enough. And u said Roberto is the better option and deserve the place and now u said Valverde should choose him against Madrid? For what? Just doesnt make sense. If Valverde chooses Roberto, then u will turn around and say Valverde made the right choice. So which is the right choice exactly? You are just simply judging the players as of now without factoring in that managers are masterminds behind all these.

I nvr said you labelled him as a bad player. I just said u can judge him and label him as a bad player or worse than Roberto all u want. Semedo has no excuse, yes, but u forgot Valverde has the control of who to start with.

 

[JamDav1982]

I dont get you either. Semedo isnt out for months but you act like Madrid game is going to be a walk in the park for a struggling player like him.

Of course, Semedo will tries his best, u keep thinking he deliberately put up bad performances and then u'll have the opportunity to blame it on someone. Bcos u seem to be defending Valverde too much.

What I'm trying to say is if he is not fit and not in form for such games, then he shouldn't be on the pitch. His current maximum capability wont be good enough. And u said Roberto is the better option and deserve the place and now u said Valverde should choose him against Madrid? For what? Just doesnt make sense. If Valverde chooses Roberto, then u will surely say Valverde made the right choice. So which is the right choice exactly? You are just simply judging the players as of now without factoring in that managers are masterminds behind all these.

I nvr said you labelled him as a bad player. I just said u can judge him and label him as a bad player or worse than Roberto. Semedo has no excuse, yes, but u forgot Valverde has the control of who to start with.

Never said anything being a walk in park for anyone just that if Semedo is called upon he can be judged on his performance good or bad without any excuses for time out team etc.

You did say I labelled him a bad player and never have done anything bar discuss their performances this season as I see them.

If you think Roberto has been better and deserves to play then fair enough.

I agree Roberto has been better but would not be against Velverde putting in Semedo if he thinks he is the better option tactically for this game and if he does Semedo gets judged on his performance. Good or bad.

 

[henias]

So if that is Valverde's "tactical choice" then dont complain if Semedo "doesnt go forward" or doesnt make some incisive passes and that Roberto should have come up against big games instead like Atletico or Valencia.

No matter what events turned out, Valverde will still be somehow making the right choice in your one sided opinion.

I know abt Semedo being judged as a player, u dont have to keep repeating that.

Ur way of debating is really wierd lol. I said walk in the park bcos u were exaggerating abt Semedo being out for months but I'm comparing the intensity of the games with his match fitness and form as of now. U have to remember he isnt the same when he was against Juventus. Suarez has been given all of time to find his form while on the contrary Semedo was not even able to do that in the last 2 games recently. And it happened against Atletico and what makes u think it wont happen against Madrid if Semedo is the type that needs conditioning. Valverde should know his players' mental and physical fitness.

Anyway, great talking to u. You aren't really addressing my points and u were just brushing it off and overly emphasizing about judging Semedo. Tat wasnt wat im mainly talking abt.

 

[JamDav1982]

So if that is Valverde's "tactical choice" then dont complain if Semedo "doesnt go forward" or doesnt make some incisive passes and that Roberto should have come up against big games instead like Atletico or Valencia.

No matter what events turned out, Valverde will still be somehow making the right choice in your one sided opinion.

I know abt Semedo being judged as a player, u dont have to keep repeating that.

Ur way of debating is really wierd lol. I said walk in the park bcos u were exaggerating abt Semedo being out for months but I'm comparing the intensity of the games with his match fitness and form as of now. U have to remember he isnt the same when he was against Juventus. Suarez has been given all of time to find his form while on the contrary Semedo was not even able to do that in the last 2 games recently. And it happened against Atletico and what makes u think it wont happen against Madrid if Semedo is the type that needs conditioning. Valverde should know his players' mental and physical fitness.

Anyway, great talking to u. You aren't really addressing my points and u were just brushing it off and overly emphasizing about judging Semedo. Tat wasnt wat im mainly talking abt.

Nothing to do with defending Valverde and you just keep making up things that have not been said so think you are the one that has strange debating style.

Suarez has been given time as the best thing was to try and get him back to form and he has a proven level in the past while there was no one really better in his position. Semedo has none of that so totally different scenario.

Anyway you have said Semedo shouldnt start so not much to debate.

Semedo played poorly against Atletico going forward as they left him open as so little threat and he played plenty previous to that and was first choice in bigger games. More excuses.

 

[jamrock]

Thought he wasn't the best singing when we first signed him, the he kinda Changed my opinion, now in just confused...

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

99% sure he is going to start El Clasico. He's started against Valencia and Atletico and Juve. It's a no brainer. I'd much rather have him face off vs Ronaldo than Roberto

I agree with this. Roberto was destroyed by Real in our Supercup games and Vidal. Semedo is just better physically(quicker/faster) and can challenge Real better in that.

 

[henias]

Nothing to do with defending Valverde and you just keep making up things that have not been said so think you are the one that has strange debating style.

Suarez has been given time as the best thing was to try and get him back to form and he has a proven level in the past while there was no one really better in his position. Semedo has none of that so totally different scenario.

Anyway you have said Semedo shouldnt start so not much to debate.

Semedo played poorly against Atletico going forward as they left him open as so little threat and he played plenty previous to that and was first choice in bigger games. More excuses.

Then ur reasoning for Suarez is pure excuses as well. It doesnt matter if u are a proven level in the past what matter is how well u play as Alcacer did completely outperform him at some point. If thats not defending Valverde, I dont know what is. You are assuming whatever he did was fair and for "tactical reasons" when benching Semedo. Just a load of makeup BS.

Previously u mentioned that players doesnt need minutes to find their form bcos they just go out there and prove themselves, but now u change ur stance and say that tghe best thing is for Suarez is to play more and find their form.

U said players should rightfully fight for their place but proven level players should have the luxury of time for playing every game? Then that defeats the whole purpose abt players coming in to the club and fighting for their place. And that Semedo did have a tougher time blending in since the likes of Rakitic was taking up space.

You keep talking abt Semedo's bad performance but plenty players played as badly as well. Doesnt matter if u are proven or not, thats no excuse either.

 

[Behrox]

Was poor IMO after coming on. Gave the ball away and again failed to track the runner on the overlap when sergi had the other covered