Neymar Jr. - v5

[serghei]

Some of you guys just don't seem to get it. Neymar is all the time being given ball to feet and told to make something happen because Alba - Neymar is probably the most used pass right now in our game. That is dribble one or two players. And that was something he did in the past seasons, but did out of his inspiration and his own initiative in the game. Now he is told to do that as a role.

Luis Enrique, and this is the part I don't like about him, has turned players' abilities, and their own individual quality, in some easy way of escaping the need of a tactical plan. We don't create spaces. We give the balls to some players in dead positions, and tell them to create space with their individual ability.

 

[mark1nhu]

Some of you guys just don't seem to get it. Neymar is all the time being given ball to feet and told to make something happen because Alba - Neymar is probably the most used pass right now in our game. That is dribble one or two players. And that was something he did in the past seasons, but did out of his inspiration and his own initiative in the game. Now he is told to do that as a role.

Luis Enrique, and this is the part I don't like about him, has turned players' abilities, and their own individual quality, in some easy way of escaping the need of a tactical plan. We don't create spaces. We give the balls to some players in dead positions, and tell them to create space with their individual ability.

This is clear as fountain water, but it doesn't fit the narrative of Neymar being a shitty player, so they balantly close their eyes to it.

 

[evilhita666]

People love throwing around transfer prices when it comes to underperformers like Gomes, Paco and Arda... But forget that the club is paying this guy almost 20 million per season to be average at best...

We should just cash on him and rebuild the squad...

 

[kilian]

With Messi and Suarez hitting 30, that would be the most idiotic thing to do. Who would we buy with all that money and who would we replace Neymar with?

 

[evilhita666]

With Messi and Suarez hitting 30, that would be the most idiotic thing to do. Who would we buy with all that money and who would we replace Neymar with?

Iñaki Williams, obviously...

What's with the idea that selling Neymar means replacing him with another player? We need a proper midfield and a decent bench not a flashy LW who can't score...

 

[kilian]

If you sell your starter lw, you will probably buy another one, right? Unless you think that Arda should be our starter lw?

 

[evilhita666]

If you sell your starter lw, you will probably buy another one, right? Unless you think that Arda should be our starter lw?

Nah, Arda should leave also... What I mean is that we can get a player with a lower profile that suits the team and doesn't ask for stupid money to play...

I would even bring Pedro back...

 

[FlaFCB]

I think we are hitting a bigger nail here, i believe that too .. because neymar is not denis or paco, he was a part of a trebe winning barca team. I firmy believe that he's 2 levels above the neymar of 2015 ( regardless of what has been written here ) .. So maybe there is a structural problem. maybe we lost the surprise factor due to attacking exclusively from his side ?!

C'mon now. Neymar has regressed. He's not 2 levels above, but below. It could be due to the shitty tactics our garbage of a coach is employing, sure. A player can underperform due to those, but apart from that, his finishing is atrocious, and that is not due to licho. His conversion rate this season is awful.

 

[kilian]

Nah, Arda should leave also... What I mean is that we can get a player with a lower profile that suits the team and doesn't ask for stupid money to play...

I would even bring Pedro back...

You would sell Neymar and bring Pedro back. Okay.

 

[Neymessi]

The team played shit as hell but you expect him to do all the thing and won the game by himself.

Let me start of by saying he wasn't great,obviously, but again, coming on this thread after a not bad performance from him and like always people want his head here.

I don't think if many people understand this, but 1v1s aren't always a must score. That chance he missed is easily missable considering the angle and defenders rushing in from all sides. Was even unlucky to not have an assist and wrongly(?) called offside when suarez missed that sitter. And that chance is what should be finished at all costs. The best you can do in the chance he missed is pick the near or the far post and hit on target as well as you can and then it could go in or it could not and he did that exactly. Was also unlucky to not achieve a penalty.

He has been playing well lately if you ask me and while this wasn't a great game he still tried and gave efforts when a lot of our players seemed dead.

Also I just love it how the anti-neymar group keeps saying that the pro-neymar group is blind when all they always do is just say that he wasn't the worst player in the world as it keeps getting mentioned here. Also it was nice how someone compared his game to be as bad and like cr7. Shambles this thread. Over exagerration at its finest.

 

[Neeraj]

His work rate has gone up by miles. He almost works as hard as Pedro now, which is crazy because he believes he is a superstar, and you wouldn't expect such a work rate. His finishing though, is hurting us quite bad. I agree that a lot of his decline is down to Lucho; he has to always receive the ball with defenders and just make something happen. There's no real plan. Finishing though, that's on him.

No way was he our worst player though.

 

[evilhita666]

You would sell Neymar and bring Pedro back. Okay.

Plus a great midfielder, which would be the main objective, and some bench player that can actually play football unlike what we have now...

Ah, and don't forget an RB, because we reaaaally need one badly...

 

[BBZ8800]

This is clear as fountain water, but it doesn't fit the narrative of Neymar being a shitty player, so they balantly close their eyes to it.

The part I don't get is:

1. Lucho is stupid, but Messi manages to play well and be a key player in spite of Lucho's stupidity
2. L. Suarez the same
3. Iniesta the same
4. Pique the same etc

BUT...
Neymar is bad mostly because of Lucho.
Neymar is ballhogging mostly because of Lucho.
Neymar is dribbling the way he is dribbling currently, because of Lucho's lack of a gameplan.
Neymar is not scoring probably because of Lucho.
Neymar is not a leader or able to be crucial player in any way, because of Lucho.

There are only 2 options:
1. either Lucho's stupidity is aimed mostly at Neymar and it is hurting him the most for some reason
2. or what majority of you are writing makes zero sense, and Neymar is just a shadow of a player whom you wanted him to be

 

[kilian]

Plus a great midfielder, which would be the main objective, and some bench player that can actually play football unlike what we have now...

Ah, and don't forget an RB, because we reaaaally need one badly...

I agree that we need a top midfielder and a top rb. But selling Neymar and replacing him with Pedro, when you have Suarez and Messi hitting 30 would be a very bad decision. Even Pedro is almost 30 years old. I know some of you don`t like Neymar, but he is a top 5 player and only 24 years old. You don`t replace quality with quantity.

 

[FlaFCB]

The part I don't get is:

1. Lucho is stupid, but Messi manages to play well and be a key player in spite of Lucho's stupidity
2. L. Suarez the same
3. Iniesta the same
4. Pique the same etc

BUT...
Neymar is bad mostly because of Lucho.
Neymar is ballhogging mostly because of Lucho.
Neymar is dribbling the way he is dribbling currently, because of Lucho's lack of a gameplan.
Neymar is not scoring probably because of Lucho.
Neymar is not a leader or able to be crucial player in any way, because of Lucho.

There are only 2 options:
1. either Lucho's stupidity is aimed mostly at Neymar and it is hurting him the most for some reason
2. or what majority of you are writing makes zero sense, and Neymar is just a shadow of a player whom you wanted him to be

No one played well today. Suarez's been awful for most of the season too, despite scoring. He used to play much better. All the players you named had more bad than good appearances this season, bar Messi. Even Iniesta, as good and experienced as he is, looks completely clueless out there sometimes.

The thing is there is no clear system, no tactics, just a bunch of players trying to figure out what to do. Neymar is not the culprit for all problems, and your narrative of trying this to be the reason for Barça's poor play is totally wrong.