Neymar - v2

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Metaphysical

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"Could Neymar join us this summer? He has a contract with Santos until 2014. He will stay at his club," Bartomeu stated to RAC1.

i.e. "we're gonna sign him but won't say so now so as not to offend Santos (like we offended Arsenal & Udinese) ahead of their centenary."

why would Santos let his contract run down 12 months 'til expiration? and why would he sign a new contract when he knows he needs to make the move to Europe soon?

I'll be shocked if he's not a Barcelona player by September 1st, 2012.

(hope he's not tho. don't want Dave forced out)
 
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ZiZu

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A few weeks ago you were saying that Messi is the best..what happend since then that changed your mind? And who are these people that are claiming that Neymar will be better then Messi? All I've seen these days is that Cristiano is the best again.



At which Barca team to you reffer too? To the one, that if it weren't for Messi's goals, would have finished below Valencia, uncapable of beating Levante or Racing?



Wow..Watch out Pele!!!

The only person I've see seen who's described Ronaldo as the best player ..... is Ronaldo himself !!
 

Pepe Silvia

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His haircut is really annoying. He flops like a girl half the time I see him playing and when he actually gets hit, most of the time it's because he runs right into trouble like a jack ass. The other half of the time he is brilliant.

In all honesty I won't lose any sleep if we don't sign him.
 

Kerrybai

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His haircut is really annoying. He flops like a girl half the time I see him playing and when he actually gets hit, most of the time it's because he runs right into trouble like a jack ass. The other half of the time he is brilliant.

In all honesty I won't lose any sleep if we don't sign him.

I assume we would put him on a new diet and send him to the gym to gain muscle and toughen up. He could be much more effective with more strength.
 

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
I assume we would put him on a new diet and send him to the gym to gain muscle and toughen up. He could be much more effective with more strength.

I think being a stick has helped him so far, being a wirey bastard is one of the reason he can do such ridiculous awkward things. But in the long run it would benefit him to bulk up.

Also, get rid of the haircut.
 
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barcelonista

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don't want Dave forced out

You're assuming that he will force big Dave out. But that's actually not the biggest worry. Villa is 30 (will be 31 this year). Realistically he has 2 or maximum 3 more seasons in him as a starter at the highest level for a club like Barcelona. Assuming that Neymar will arrive around 2014 and not this year, he won't clash with David at all. The actual worry is Pedro. You don't buy Alexis for almost € 40 million and Neymar for even more than that and then leave them on the bench. Plus Cuenca. And Tello. And Deulofeu. Especially Deulofeu will be a "problem" if he develops as expected. He has by far the biggest potential of all our cantera wingers. If he doesn't do a "Bojan", he'll become a world beater. And then there is Dongou as well who might also compete for a starting spot in our front line in a few years (albeit being a #9). If all our canteras don't flop, we might have Pedro, Alexis, Neymar, Deulofeu, Dongou, Tello, Cuenca for 2 positions. Maybe Rafinha as well as a false 9. And maybe some "surprises" (like Pedro). I have no clue why we would need to splash shitloads of money for Neymar when we are not only pretty much settled upfront (Messi, Alexis, Pedro with Afellay, Tello, Cuenca as second choices is among the best forward lines in the world already if everyone is fit and in form as we've seen on Friday) but when additionally our academy is also producing shitloads of talented youngstars.
 

Armando929

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It really wouldnt make sense to spend loads of money on a young player like Neymar this summer. He's not what we need.

Along with an LB and CB, we need a target man. We have plenty of wingers.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
I would worry that there will indeed be pampering for the player which will simply see history repeat itself for the club
 

Metaphysical

Bomb Dropper
You're assuming that he will force big Dave out. But that's actually not the biggest worry. Villa is 30 (will be 31 this year). Realistically he has 2 or maximum 3 more seasons in him as a starter at the highest level for a club like Barcelona. Assuming that Neymar will arrive around 2014 and not this year, he won't clash with David at all. The actual worry is Pedro. You don't buy Alexis for almost € 40 million and Neymar for even more than that and then leave them on the bench. Plus Cuenca. And Tello. And Deulofeu. Especially Deulofeu will be a "problem" if he develops as expected. He has by far the biggest potential of all our cantera wingers. If he doesn't do a "Bojan", he'll become a world beater. And then there is Dongou as well who might also compete for a starting spot in our front line in a few years (albeit being a #9). If all our canteras don't flop, we might have Pedro, Alexis, Neymar, Deulofeu, Dongou, Tello, Cuenca for 2 positions. Maybe Rafinha as well as a false 9. And maybe some "surprises" (like Pedro). I have no clue why we would need to splash shitloads of money for Neymar when we are not only pretty much settled upfront (Messi, Alexis, Pedro with Afellay, Tello, Cuenca as second choices is among the best forward lines in the world already if everyone is fit and in form as we've seen on Friday) but when additionally our academy is also producing shitloads of talented youngstars.

see, I don't think Pedro is a worry at all. Tito knows his value, as does Zubi. this is the PERFECT squad guy. you can start him in any game and he can play in it (provided he's fit, of course, we've seen this season that an unhealthy Pedro is next to useless). when you think of how many games we play every year... this kid will always have opportunities. he's humble and hard-working too, which will ensure his stay at the club unless Rosell decides to hawk him for a profit.

Rafinha won't play False9, he'll stay in midfield most likely.

Dongou will have his own place in the squad because of his skillset.

that's the way you need to look at it. whose skillsets overlap?

Messi is unique
Alexis is unique
Pedro is unique
Dongou is unique
Cuenca and Afellay and Deulofeu overlap
Tello and Villa and Neymar overlap

those top 4 will always have a place in the team because no one does what they do.

Cuenca and Afellay are very similar players (proper wingers who can also play well as AM) so one of them will be forced out soon. I'd put money on Afellay as he's older, not really as good, and Cuenca is a CC. Deulofeu probably falls into this group too, so if he becomes as good as his hype suggests he should blow these two away and take this spot. it'll be a shame to lose Cuenca (or to relegate him to some 7th/8th choice bullshit) but if Deulofeu becomes that good, can we really argue?

that would give us Messi, Alexis, Pedro, Dongou, and Deulofeu. that's 5 players for 6 positions, with Dongou being a specialist/Plan B.

the 6th position is the real logjam. alright Neymar and Villa cancel each other out more or less, but then what do you do with Tello? he's quite clearly got enormous potential (albeit he'll never be as good as Neymar, but then he is a CC) I mean for all the other noise, this is the real issue with bringing Neymar in. it kills Villa in the short-term and Tello in the long-term.

now Villa in the short-term I can deal with, it's a shame but I can at least see the logic. but killing Tello as well??? eeee I dunno. not too comfortable with that at all, especially given Villa & Tello match-up perfectly in terms of age (30/31 and 20/21) so Villa will fade out just as Tello kicks on. and of course Tello is a CC. and AAGGGGHH.

I dunno. Neymar is a phenomenal talent and in a sense it would be pure foolishness to not get him in when he has such a chubby for our team. but I still feel uncomfortable because it would 100% end Villa and Tello's careers at the Camp Nou, and that's a bit shit really.
 
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