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Mauro Boselli was the highest scorer (not only on his team, but in the entire Libertadores) and scored in the final two years ago. Joffre Guerrón was the best player on LDU Quito the year before. How did moves to Europe work out to them?
Now I'm being half serious, Neymar is clearly more talented. He's maybe the most talented 19 year old in the world sure. But emphasis on 19. Comparing him to Denilson is as absurd as comparing him to Ronaldinho - it's possible he will be that good or that bad when all is said and done, but neither of us know that. Realistically he's going to end up somewhere between those two.
The problem is not that he doesn't have potential to be great (he clearly does, he's already an above average football player), the problem is that he's being hyped to absurd levels. People already claiming that he's Pele 2 and the fact that he's constantly surrounded by enablers who make him out to be some sort of God has got to be bad for the ego. He's not the first player to recieve tons of hype like this, but I've never seen such an extreme. The truth is his career trajectory has not been extraordinary, he's in good company but there's a new one of these Brazilian wonderkids every other year, Neymar is further along than most, but so were Robinho and Adriano.
Plus he's going to be expensive. Real fucking expensive, and for a player that Barca doesn't desperately need, the obsession to me seems to be far more about style than substance. As much as a lot of us superficially bash him for the way he carrys himself and his haircut, a lot of his biggest proponents are in love with him for equally shallow reasons, because he carries that swag and stereotypical samba "joga bonito" marketability that makes so many people fall in love with Brazilian football.
Come on!
Mauro Boselli and Joffre Guerrón? Don't know what to say.
The first one is 26 years old and got his debut for Argentina 2 years ago when he was 24 years old. Since that debut he has scored 1 goal in 4 matches. He was nothing special for Boca and got a revival for Estudiantes. But again when that happened he was 5 years older than Neymar is now and never as talented or suited by the worlds top clubs. Come on, you can do better than that.
Joffre who? Never heard about the guy before and I doubt that he showed anything close to Neymar's potential when being 17-19 years old.
A quick look at his Wikipedia page also confirms this.
Aha, you admitted to him being the most talented attacker at the age of 19 right now. That's a sted forward
I never compared Neymar to Ronaldinho. If you are referring to my initial post today in this thread I was simply making it clear that we have had a great tradition in terms of having Brazilian legends in the attack and that I hoped Neymar would reach the same heights/similar ones.
Well I have said myself that he is too hyped but that should not be the cause of him being underestimated THAT much like some of you do.
I have never hidden that I disagree with the amount of hype that sorrounds him. I already wrote initially that it was a shame that he had the idiot Pelé to comment on him every week. The latest remarks of him being better than Messi, according to Pelé do not help anything, rather the opposite.
His buyout clause is 50 million euros if I am not wrong. The consensus in the Catalan/Spanish/Brazilia media has lately been that of him staying at Santos until 2014 (where his contract expires) before moving. Apparently the buying club (in this case Barcelona) will pay Santos a symbolic amount.
What is certain is that he will not be sold for anything close to 60 million Punds.
My point still stands. Looking at it talentwise there are not many equal to him if any in his age category.
To try to dismiss him as some here do just for the sake of it is pretty strange. I mean he has hardly been an idiot towards our club in fact rather the opposite. Hyped or not.
But well we are not supposed to agree on everything but some users (you are not included if that was not clear) could nevertheless do themselves a favour or two in not exposing their lack of knowledge about Neymar (his behaviour) or ability/potential. Especially not when they base their view on 2 games and a few youtube highlight videos.
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