Ousmane Dembélé

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Andresito

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I'd take Raphina over dembele right now tbh, but in our books I think renewing dembele works out better for whatever reason.

True if my calculations are correct.
Remaining value for his transfer is 21m.
If we renew for another 5 years, we'll amortize 4.2m per year, plus his salary of say 9m (don't know the correct number) = 13.2m per year for Dembele.

Signing Raphinha for 45m (if we can) on a 5 year contract will cost us 9m. Then he can only earn 4.2m per year if he isn't to become more expensive than Dembele.
 

mc_lovin

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Dembele wants (20m)40m in wages and a signing bonus for him and his agent. Cumulatively, Raphinha will cost less. I think a skillful winger with raw pace will be more useful to us than Dembele currently is imo.

Not really my point, on those wages he can fuck off. I agree.

Replacing Dembele is not the issue either, but it's just so unnecessary. It's his decision though. I am all for Laporta staying firm.
 

feggydinho

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At his best he's capable of providing lethal final balls, but he doesn't excel at the fundamentals like other top wingers (Neymar, Robben, Ribery, Mahrez) do. He always looks uncomfortable with the ball. Very erratic passing. And his dribbling is just not convincing. He can rip apart a defense with his pace, but he just won't be able to elude 3 players with pure skill and control Messi, Neymar, and Ribery were capable of doing it. This isn't me complaining about him not being elite with ball control, I think the average winger has more consistency with ball control than Dembele does.

However, his strong areas - crossing, vision, and pure pace makes him an excellent option as a utility option in an elite team. Probably the best utility otions in Europe. But as a star player, the main starting winger for an elite club? I just don't think he's that good and he'll never be that good because of his fundamental limitations. Which is why he's not worth the salary he's asking for. We should take advantage of him and then let him go wherever he wants, it's that simple.

I think he can be adequately replaced quite easily by a winger of Raphinha's level (who's far from elite imo). He's not worth the fuss.

Spot on with the limitations, but he can still be one of the main wingers for an Elite club (would own the rw if he was at Real Madrid or Man Utd as quality of wingers have generally gone down), they just have to understand his limitations and see if they can work with it. He was really explosive in Rennes and Dortmund with the same limitations and seemed to have regressed with Barca actually, think he would've been a better fit to a club that plays fast paced counter football.
 

cro-man

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At Bar?a they are 99% convinced that Demb?l? has signed with another club to arrive on a free in the summer. [md]</p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1507035710745980932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

Porque

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At Bar?a they are 99% convinced that Demb?l? has signed with another club to arrive on a free in the summer. [md]</p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1507035710745980932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What gave them that crazy idea ...
 

serghei

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True if my calculations are correct.
Remaining value for his transfer is 21m.
If we renew for another 5 years, we'll amortize 4.2m per year, plus his salary of say 9m (don't know the correct number) = 13.2m per year for Dembele.

Signing Raphinha for 45m (if we can) on a 5 year contract will cost us 9m. Then he can only earn 4.2m per year if he isn't to become more expensive than Dembele.

Raphinha will perform much better than Dembele for us, who was basically 10% good, 20% clown, 20% dumb, and 50% injured.

Lose Dembele, sign Raphinha, and RW goes up in quality.
 

OVI9323

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Ferran Torres: "Demb?l? is the fastest and most confident player in La Liga."

It's a wonder for me, why a player with so many default in his basic skill bring so much complament of other player

Just a few message back, it was Pedri that said that Dembele is one of the 2 player in barca that impressed him the most

I know he has his moment of brillance but ...
 

Laplacian

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It's a wonder for me, why a player with so many default in his basic skill bring so much complament of other player

Just a few message back, it was Pedri that said that Dembele is one of the 2 player in barca that impressed him the most

I know he has his moment of brillance but ...

Because despite his limitations, he's one of the best in Europe at what he excels at.
 

Andresito

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What's the longest period he's gone without an injury? Should be pretty close for the top with the current one right?
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Dembele's injuries list after coming to barca, outstanding.



1/22 Corona-Virus 29.12.2021 05.01.2022 7 Tage 2FC Barcelona
21/22 Oberschenkelverletzung 04.11.2021 22.11.2021 18 Tage 2FC Barcelona
21/22 Knieverletzung 20.06.2021 01.11.2021 134 Tage 14FC Barcelona
20/21 unbekannte Verletzung 21.04.2021 23.04.2021 2 Tage 1FC Barcelona
20/21 Oberschenkelverletzung 06.12.2020 28.12.2020 22 Tage 5FC Barcelona
19/20 Oberschenkelverletzung 04.02.2020 13.08.2020 191 Tage 19FC Barcelona
19/20 Muskelb?ndelriss 28.11.2019 02.02.2020 66 Tage 13FC Barcelona
19/20 muskul?re Probleme 27.09.2019 30.09.2019 3 Tage 1FC Barcelona
19/20 Oberschenkelverletzung 19.08.2019 22.09.2019 34 Tage 5FC Barcelona
18/19 Oberschenkelverletzung 05.05.2019 16.06.2019 42 Tage 4FC Barcelona
18/19 Muskelb?ndelriss 14.03.2019 09.04.2019 26 Tage 4FC Barcelona
18/19 Kn?chelverletzung 21.01.2019 08.02.2019 18 Tage 5FC Barcelona
17/18 Muskelb?ndelriss 15.01.2018 10.02.2018 26 Tage 7FC Barcelona
17/18 Oberschenkelverletzung
 

Messigician

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Dembele's injuries list after coming to barca, outstanding.



1/22 Corona-Virus 29.12.2021 05.01.2022 7 Tage 2FC Barcelona
21/22 Oberschenkelverletzung 04.11.2021 22.11.2021 18 Tage 2FC Barcelona
21/22 Knieverletzung 20.06.2021 01.11.2021 134 Tage 14FC Barcelona
20/21 unbekannte Verletzung 21.04.2021 23.04.2021 2 Tage 1FC Barcelona
20/21 Oberschenkelverletzung 06.12.2020 28.12.2020 22 Tage 5FC Barcelona
19/20 Oberschenkelverletzung 04.02.2020 13.08.2020 191 Tage 19FC Barcelona
19/20 Muskelb?ndelriss 28.11.2019 02.02.2020 66 Tage 13FC Barcelona
19/20 muskul?re Probleme 27.09.2019 30.09.2019 3 Tage 1FC Barcelona
19/20 Oberschenkelverletzung 19.08.2019 22.09.2019 34 Tage 5FC Barcelona
18/19 Oberschenkelverletzung 05.05.2019 16.06.2019 42 Tage 4FC Barcelona
18/19 Muskelb?ndelriss 14.03.2019 09.04.2019 26 Tage 4FC Barcelona
18/19 Kn?chelverletzung 21.01.2019 08.02.2019 18 Tage 5FC Barcelona
17/18 Muskelb?ndelriss 15.01.2018 10.02.2018 26 Tage 7FC Barcelona
17/18 Oberschenkelverletzung

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