Paco Alcácer
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God Serena
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The "Problem" is we'll have to choose between Munir and Paco. Munir is from our academy, is younger, knows our system, and is imo a better player, so while Paco may be a good 4th option, he should still probably go, because a better one is coming this summer along with Deulofeu.
Paco and Gomes will both be staying at the club. As much as people may want them to leave, I simply can't see it happening.
The board spent about 60 mil on those 2 and selling them after just one season would mean that buying them in the first place was a huge mistake. This basically means that the board would be accepting responsibility for a failed season due to bad transfers.
Selling Paco and Gomes in the summer would make Barto and co. look like fools. It takes a big man to accept his own mistakes and move on. I just don't think this board has that attitude. They will keep both of them just to prove to everyone else that they were right. Their willingness not to undo their previous mistakes is going to cost this club dearly in the long run.
The board spent about 60 mil on those 2 and selling them after just one season would mean that buying them in the first place was a huge mistake. This basically means that the board would be accepting responsibility for a failed season due to bad transfers.
Selling Paco and Gomes in the summer would make Barto and co. look like fools. It takes a big man to accept his own mistakes and move on. I just don't think this board has that attitude. They will keep both of them just to prove to everyone else that they were right. Their willingness not to undo their previous mistakes is going to cost this club dearly in the long run.
JamDav1982
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Munir isnt a better player than Paco. If Suarez got injured it would not even be that close as to who would be the better CF to cover him.
Deulofeu cant play CF and has not even shown he can play as a wide player that suits Barca.
The only negative is Pacos fee for a player that Lucho has not used enough to justify it.
serghei
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Paco is a good player, and is better than Munir, and has more abilities to play as a striker. He's young, and he'll help if trusted. Sociedad is a pretty good team in La Liga, and he had a very good game against them. Played well against Bilbao too on Camp Nou. If we give him balls, he will score goals and make assists, as his connection with MSN members see to be improving at a good rate.
Just keep Paco, bring back Deulofeu, and the offense is set, with MSN + Deulofeu and Paco. Plus that if we sign a very good CAM like Bernardo Silva or Coutinho, he can slot in as well in one of the forward positions. Attack is the least of our problems imo. Every signing we make needs to be in midfield and defense. Midfield is the Achille's heel atm and seriously needs fixing.
I'd like top RB, top CM, maybe an AM too, and even a CB. 4 signings, 2 in midfield, 2 in defense, out of which two players have to be close to world class level - RB and midfielder (either CM or AM).
Yea, more Enrique's fault tbh.
Just keep Paco, bring back Deulofeu, and the offense is set, with MSN + Deulofeu and Paco. Plus that if we sign a very good CAM like Bernardo Silva or Coutinho, he can slot in as well in one of the forward positions. Attack is the least of our problems imo. Every signing we make needs to be in midfield and defense. Midfield is the Achille's heel atm and seriously needs fixing.
I'd like top RB, top CM, maybe an AM too, and even a CB. 4 signings, 2 in midfield, 2 in defense, out of which two players have to be close to world class level - RB and midfielder (either CM or AM).
Yea, more Enrique's fault tbh.
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serghei
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Paco is a beter finisher. He has scored quite some goals for Valencia, and was even Spain's main goalscorer in the Euro preliminaries. What has Munir done to be called a better striker than Alcacer? He isn't even a sure starter for Valencia.
God Serena
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Your dislike for Deulofeu is so strong you threw in some vile at him even though he's not the subject at hand here. He's coming, there's no point preaching to us how terrible a fit he is for Barca.
When I say Munir is a better player, I should have said he's better for us. He's much more familiar with the system, is at this point more clinical in front of goal (Paco's misses today were problems we were having with Munir when he was a teenager), and is one of our own Masia products, which should hold some kind of value when compared to an expensive signing who has similar quality, although I know it doesn't to you and many others.
God Serena
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Munir has played well vs Bilbao as well and he's also played well in the Barca derby which is usually a tough match as well.
Even after his dramatic rise in form last season he was loaned out, but Paco came and even now he's not as good a backup as Munir was back then and I'd go as far as to say it's not even close.
God Serena
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Munir is more clinical in front of goal. By what measurement?
Just comparing Munir's 2015/16 to Paco's 2016/17 makes it obvious who was doing a better job scoring goals for us.
Are you on the Paco fantrain now because you got tired of being on the Gomes train by yourself?
serghei
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Paco is a better back-up than Munir. But he was rarlely used, and when he was played, it was usually in experimental line-ups in which he barely had usable balls. Paco's numbers in the little minutes he got are actually pretty great.
I was here a little over a year ago when people pissed all over Munir saying he's shit btw. Now he's actually more clinical than a player who has almost 40 goals in La Liga.
If you look at the times that Paco played in the first 11 with the first team around him, he was rather good.
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jamrock
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I didn't say better I said more upside, he isn't better now, though the difference in minimal
But given the time in his preferred position, he will develop into a better player, because right now the only thing paco is better at is those fox in the box,striker movements in the box.
Which is something that comes with experience,which Munir lacks
Everything else Munir is a much more talented player.
Again not better now,but more upside which needs further development.
JamDav1982
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What on earth drivel are you speaking now?
Paco has scored four in last seven La Liga games and two of them were the winning goals. He has taken time to find his feet and deal with being at club like Barca.
You are the one who brought Deulofeu into the conversation as a 'fourth option' in relation to Paco...
I can have any opinion on players like Deulofeu I like and nothing to do with 'hatred' of him.
So much for you being a great supporter of La Masia when you did not have much support for Munir and Sandro last season while I was one of the few that stuck up for Munir when he was getting slaughtered for majority of last two seasons at Barca.
God Serena
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Paco has played alongside Messi and Neymar with Rakitic and company plenty of times. In the first half of the season the only goal he scored was blatantly offsides against third tier opposition. How many goals does he have now? 3? If Paco could have at least been good enough for us to be able to rely on him for the copa like he were with Munir this nonsense about him being a better backup than Munir would at least have some sort of credibility behind it, but Munir made the copa his bitch even in some our toughest away matches, while Paco is only truly finding his feet in late March to mid-April.
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