Paul Pogba

[TornAndFrayed]

Matuidi is a far more accomplished player than Pogba. Much more well rounded. Having said that; I would love Verratti here more than any other player. If we ever break the bank; let it be for him.

PSG's grip is tight but i don't expect them to hold on to both Matuidi & Verratti for too long.
Pogba would be the perfect bait.

 

[Flavia]

PSG's grip is tight but i don't expect them to hold on to both Matuidi & Verratti for too long.
Pogba would be the perfect bait.

Yes. Pogba to PSG, Verratti to Barça. That'd be perfect. It won't happen, though.

This will happen:

120m plus insane wages.

 

[Neymessi]

Thinking of putting #teamantipogba or #teamanythingbutpogba in my sig.

 

[Luftstalag14]

That will be Thwix's new avatar.

 

[Co0ter]

Yes. Pogba to PSG, Verratti to Barça. That'd be perfect. It won't happen, though.

This will happen:

120m plus insane wages.

I'm all for spending big money when it is worth it. I wanted a real number 9 and to move Messi to RW for years so Suarez was worth it. Neymar was the most promising attacking talent in the world....also worth it. Pogba played for a team that was far, far superior to every other team in the league, not to mention Serie A itself is in a really weak state. What has he proven? What big moments or overall amazing performances warrant his hype and price? The kid has fancy dribbles and scored a few screamers...that is all.

Not worth it...

120mil could be spent on two WC players...and I dont even think we need two right now. Save it for a midfielder, we'll know how bad or if we need one before the end of the season. Other than that, we need some experienced quality off the bench up front.

 

[Deco 20]

Yes. Pogba to PSG, Verratti to Barça. That'd be perfect. It won't happen, though.

This will happen:

120m plus insane wages.

6 year contract. Performs averagely. Coach still supports him. Hope that he'll improve. Keeps being average. Becomes a rotational player after two seasons. The club wants to get rid of him. No-one wants to buy. Hope turns into desperation.
Pogba won't lower his wages. Would rather get benched. Stays until contract expires. Leaves as a free agent. Barcelona get nothing. Juve get 120 million. Pogba gets 80 million in wages (before tax).
All-in-all Barca pay 350 million for Pogba and win 1 league title.

 

[Ghostmaster]

I'm all for spending big money when it is worth it. I wanted a real number 9 and to move Messi to RW for years so Suarez was worth it. Neymar was the most promising attacking talent in the world....also worth it. Pogba played for a team that was far, far superior to every other team in the league, not to mention Serie A itself is in a really weak state. What has he proven? What big moments or overall amazing performances warrant his hype and price? The kid has fancy dribbles and scored a few screamers...that is all.

Not worth it...

120mil could be spent on two WC players...and I dont even think we need two right now. Save it for a midfielder, we'll know how bad or if we need one before the end of the season. Other than that, we need some experienced quality off the bench up front.

It's sad to see that you have changed your mind about Pogba, because I remember that you have posted a few good posts why we should sign him. It's not only about fancy dribbles and few screamers, it's also about physicality, combativeness, tackles, this is what Lucho likes and demands from the midfielders nowadays, IMO this is why we had such a good defensive record last season - because midfielders always help defensively. That being said I don't actually think there will be place for Pogba or Gundogan unless they want to get rid of few players (Rafinha, Sergi Roberto).

 

[Trickykid]

I went to read some posts on Juve's forums about Pogba from Juve's fans:
Here are some from the last 10 days:
-- Football Italia says we wont sell him for even 150M
-- He need to stop trying to hymiliate the opponent but to be more clynical and not to dribble all the time.
-- (He need to stop trying to hymiliate the opponent but to be more clynical and not to dribble all the time.) = He was only humiliating himself against Udinese.
-- Yeah he was pretty bad.And that clear chance when he could score he dribbles.
-- What a horrible game. That freekick giveaway
-- I'm nervous about Pogba. He is a lot of hype and despite his moments of genius, he is often a liability. I also didn't like him reaming out the strikers all match, because he was very wasteful himself. His ego is also starting to show. Personally, I'd seriously consider selling him for the right offer.
-- Crap again, he has to step up big time.
-- Thought he'd be ready to lead the team since he basically self proclaimed it. Boy needs to grow up fast.
-- We are relying too much on him at the moment.

Last year he was supported by the likes of Tevez, Pirlo and to a lesser extent Vidal (in the second half of the season). He just doesn't seem ready to carry the team yet. Hopefully Marchisio coming back will help.
-- i think he is rushing the whole I am the leader thing. he is still a kid.
-- not saying it's gonna turn out that way, but this is why i was for us selling him this summer, we really took a big risk to boost his value even more in a transitional year.
-- Needs to stop doing too much of that fancy crap.
-- Nobody is asking him to save Juve. Just play well to justify his own talent. The only person, from the look of things, who thinks he is the saviour, is Pogba himself.
-- So frustrating to watch. He's definitely not a leader in this team. He needs someone to take his pressure off next to him.
-- At this pace...he will have to be sold after this season.
1- he will be mad at everyone and would love to GTFO
2- He cant carry us and it is turning to be a mistake giving him the 10 and the inmense pressure. yeah we were hand tied on this.... but it seems the own pogba misjudged his carrying capacity-
-- his constant shouting at team members is annoying aswell.
-- (his constant shouting at team members is annoying aswell.) = That was the worst part. He made the team worse today.
-- Exactly. I imagine the rest of the dudes thinking like "Wtf is going on with this man?, he is playing like shid and is calling out everyone?"
-- More of a luxury player than a leader, he was perfect with Marchisio at DM and Vidal on the other side. Watching him try to lead the team from midfield is just horrific. He's not that sort of player.
-- This is the season he gets found out as just another excellent midfielder and not the second coming of christ that warrants 100 mill.
-- Handing him the #10 was awkward and the lad is definitely reacting in the worst way possible. All these summer move rumors and big-cash put early hope on him 'leading'. He is no #10. Should've kept his #6 and 'status'.

Now, we should sign a star midfielder to take some of the pressure off him. Unlikely though.
-- great leaders are born out of chaos...things were all over the place today and his attitude reflected it. i personally would never be one to oppose a sale. he may be an entity in terms of talent (the extent of which is still somewhat debatable in my mind)...but leadership and composure on and off the ball that helps tie it into something that can be of use to the progression of the CLUB...im ust not seeing it...he may have scored some important goals but mentality will determine how clutch he can actually be...that free kick from udinese game still haunts me lol
-- That's part of the problem. Pogba can be a good midfielder, but if he isn't able to take control himself, there is no way he is worth his price tag or the hype that he is somehow the next Ballon D'Or winner. Don't get me wrong, he'll be good, but I have serious doubts if he'll ever be 120 million euro good. The problem also is all the hype is making him think he is 120 million euro good. For that valuation, it is probably prudent to sell.
-- Too many tricks and flics, if he could keep it simple he would be the best midfielder in the world. Many coaches advised him to do so, including Lippi.

We'll have to wait and see, I hope he stops losing 20 balls per game and starts playing smart like a real number 10.
-- stray passes, surrendering possession easily, outta timin fancy $#@! on the ball eventually leading to nothing and most times given away, emotional immaturity for petty lil $#@!

afraid this season he'd b figured out but if he truly has to be rated he must do so independent of who is around him...u cant tell me he cant show more even if paired with stu and pado..100mil u shud at least be d lil light in d darkness
-- That is the difference between a good player and a good leader. A good player can only contribute a very small amount because he does only apply his skill to the position he plays in and is easily shut down by doubling up on him. A good leader will make the other players around him play better even when marked. Best example is Pirlo. Even under pressure he played the ball to a lesser skilled player who did gain an advantage over the opponent just by the kind of ball he got played to.

Nobody would say that Lichtsteiner is a goal threat or very attacking player, but Pirlo made him look very dangerous by the amount of great passes he lobbed over the defense with Lichtsteiner literally receiving the ball inside the box with no opponent near him.
-- according to both l'équipe and le parisien, pogba was one of the worst french player against serbia. it seems that he's completely out of form for club and country. let's hope he gets his act together asap. we need him, desperately.

I don't doubt that there is a lot of truth to the points they are making, but first and foremost it reeks of a fanbase whos team has started the season on a terrible note. Hell, it could easily be from our very own forum whenever our players and team are having seriously rough patches.
Add to that the fact that they full well know that Pogba will most likely be history come summer 16, and it's suddenly no wonder they're having these kneejerk reactions.

As a few of them mention, it's even understandable he's having a bad start, considering his partners in midfield (or lack of same) and added pressure of him controlling the midfield on his own suddenly. No, he obviously not there yet, and we don't know if he will get there, but he sure as he'll aren't having the best of circumstances right now.

In any case, this is a dream scenario for us, as he'll have to show his real strenght in a team that doesn't carry him. Either he'll flunk, and his price won't raise astronomically - and hey, perhaps even Barto will have second thoughts on buying him - or he'll rise to the occasion and we'll buy the quality player that his most diehard fans believe he already is.

 

[Co0ter]

It's sad to see that you have changed your mind about Pogba, because I remember that you have posted a few good posts why we should sign him. It's not only about fancy dribbles and few screamers, it's also about physicality, combativeness, tackles, this is what Lucho likes and demands from the midfielders nowadays, IMO this is why we had such a good defensive record last season - because midfielders always help defensively. That being said I don't actually think there will be place for Pogba or Gundogan unless they want to get rid of few players (Rafinha, Sergi Roberto).

I think Pogba is a good player, a young and still promising player. While I supported his signing INITIALLY, although I mentioned multiple times he would be more of a gamble, that all changed radically once he was rumored to be going for 80mil euros. I immediately became opposed to his signing, the fact that it's gone up to 100mil, and now 120mil is just laughable. He is worth what every single other promising young midfielder is worth, and not a penny more. He is not more special than the likes of James, Isco, De Bruyne etc There are also players that would fit our team much better than him, I was very supportive of signing Kovacic, more-so than any other young player. Disappointed is an understatement.

 

[barcafan161]

Yes. Pogba to PSG, Verratti to Barça. That'd be perfect. It won't happen, though.

This will happen:

120m plus insane wages.

Yep guy will be overpaid

 

[serghei]

Yes. Pogba to PSG, Verratti to Barça. That'd be perfect. It won't happen, though.

This will happen:

120m plus insane wages.

Damn, I miss that home kit already.

Btw, Pogba looks great in Blaugrana tbh. Whoever did that edit sure knows his photoshop stuff.

 

[Ghostmaster]

I think Pogba is a good player, a young and still promising player. While I supported his signing INITIALLY, although I mentioned multiple times he would be more of a gamble, that all changed radically once he was rumored to be going for 80mil euros. I immediately became opposed to his signing, the fact that it's gone up to 100mil, and now 120mil is just laughable. He is worth what every single other promising young midfielder is worth, and not a penny more. He is not more special than the likes of James, Isco, De Bruyne etc There are also players that would fit our team much better than him, I was very supportive of signing Kovacic, more-so than any other young player. Disappointed is an understatement.

Well the price is constantly changing, first it was 100m, then 80m, now after crazy EPL's spending marathon it's over 100m, after this season it will probably be different again.

 

[Morten]

As for carrying the team, Pogba doesnt need to for Barca. He only need to pass it to Messi, like everyone else and he will be fine.

 

[Morten]

I think Pogba is a good player, a young and still promising player. While I supported his signing INITIALLY, although I mentioned multiple times he would be more of a gamble, that all changed radically once he was rumored to be going for 80mil euros. I immediately became opposed to his signing, the fact that it's gone up to 100mil, and now 120mil is just laughable. He is worth what every single other promising young midfielder is worth, and not a penny more. He is not more special than the likes of James, Isco, De Bruyne etc There are also players that would fit our team much better than him, I was very supportive of signing Kovacic, more-so than any other young player. Disappointed is an understatement.

Well, now with Martials transfer recently, they can finally justify to demand 100-120 mill, really.

 

[Co0ter]

Well, now with Martials transfer recently, they can finally justify to demand 100-120 mill, really.

Unfortunately, you are probably right.

Realistically, just because teams stupidly pay absurd money for players (see: Real Madrid 100mil Bale, Man U 80mil Martial) doesn't mean everyone should have to. Inflation in football is real though, and rats like Raiola use these bad transfers to their advantage.