Paul Pogba

Interlop

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I actually think 70 million for this guy is a good price considering today's market. You guys forgot how much Madrid payed for Bale and James. Well that doesn't mean that we Barca have to turn galactico style and buy expensive as hell players but considering his age and quality I think he is worth it. We have to think about the risks our most beloved club will take by pursuing it. Will he fit in our system? I think the only person that knows this answer is Lucho, so this is his call and I trust him. We can only speculate. I think that Pogba can, actually, fit our system, not Pep's system but Lucho's system. Also, Pogba is very young and can adapt easier and also can be sold very expensive if he flops.
 

Bertus

New member
I actually think 70 million for this guy would be a good price considering today's market.
Fixed.

Gonna say it again, but this transfer is not done yet. And the reported fee can change.

You guys should wait for Juventus medias infos too.

You should all know how Sport is not a medias that can always be trusted nor the most accurate, especially when it's about a foreign club.
 

Bertus

New member
Would he fit in with our forwards especially messi. Would pogba be happy to supply the forwards or would he try do all himself

Yeah sure, Pogba is a striker and always plays like a striker... :facepalm:

You guys never watched Juventus or what? Do you think he takes the ball and runs all by himself to score like in Captain Tsubasa?

He's a midfielder. A good one.
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
Yeah sure, Pogba is a striker and always plays like a striker... :facepalm:

You guys never watched Juventus or what? Do you think he takes the ball and runs all by himself to score like in Captain Tsubasa?

He's a midfielder. A good one.

LOL. I love you and your attitude. #nohomo
 

nathael

New member
I've studied Pogba and Koke very thoroughly this season and came up with this conclusion.

Passing:

- Short passing: This one goes to Koke due to a higher level of awareness regarding his close surroundings. He seems to know who is standing right next to him better.
- Long passing: Pogba is the better long passer. His long balls are more consistently accurate.
- Dead ball delivery: Koke. Simply one of the best dead ball specialist out there. 10 of his 15 Assists have come from dead balls.
- Through balls: Pogba plays them more frequently
- Link up play in the final third: Tie. Although I find Pogba a little more creative and hence more exciting, Koke's Link-up play is on par due to his short passing accuracy.
- Crossing: Hard to tell who is better at it, since both have similar accuracy, but Koke does it more often and a huge chunk of his created chances come from crosses.

Verdict: Koke's short passing game seems like a great fit for the more conservative Barca approach. But if Barca want to stick to the more vertical style of play that Enrique has introduced, Pogba might be better suited.


Defending:

- Positioning: Koke is more aware of his surroundings and therefore better positioned, which shows in his higher interception count.
- Tackling: Although Koke is tackling slightly more often, Pogba has a better success rate.
- Clearances: Tie. Both are equally good.
- Aerial Duels: Pogba wins more bacause of his physicality.
- Discipline: Koke is more disciplined overall since his timing is better, but Pogba has less Yellow Cards, since his fouls are less severe.
- Defensive Workrate/Pressing: Koke works harder.

Verdict: Koke is more Xaviesque when it comes to defending. He covers spaces well, due to his smart positioning and his tackles are well timed. Pogba is more physical, he can bully players of the ball more easily. Koke's defensive Style suits Barca better, but Pogba wouldn't be a misfit.


Technique/Game Intelligence:

- Dribbling: Pogba is quite clearly the better dribbler
- Touch: Koke's first touch lets him down less often, but his overall ball control is inferior to Pogba's.
- Awareness: Koke is superior in this regard
- Vision: Tie. Both Players have great footballing vision
- Creativity: Pogba is more creative in my opinion, but this is a difficult attribute to quantify.
- Decision Making: Koke is slightly better

Verdict: Pogba seems to be more technical, which would fit quite well into Barca's style of offensive play, but Koke's awareness make him more suitable defensively.


Goalscoring:

- Shot: Pogba shots are more accurate and dangerous.
- Finishing: While both are not notoriously cold in front of goal, Pogba is the better finisher.
- Offensive Workrate: Pogba works a little harder going forward.

Verdict: Pogba is a greater goal threat, due to his abilities and style of play. This is quite a handy trait, but no necessity for his position.


Final Conclusion:

They are both great players and a joy to watch. They still have a lot of upward trajectory, considering their young age.

If a Xavi replacement is what we are looking for, Koke would be a better fit, since his zonal marking, pressing and short passing are quite similar to Xavi's. He is simply more defensive than Pogba. I would personally still prefer Verrratti, who would be even more like Xavi. Chances of getting him seem very low though.

Pogba would edge more towards Iniesta's Position, but he wouldn't be a one for one Iniesta replacement, the closest thing to Iniesta would probably be Isco. Pogba would be a robust, but less swift attacking threat, that can inflict midfield dominance as well.

I would actually like to see both in our midfield, but if I had to choose I would probably pick Pogba, since I think his ceiling is higher and his style of play would fit Luis Enrique's vertical approach quite well. Paying 70 Million or more for him is a whole other story though and only time will tell if he can ever justify the huge amount he will definitely be going for.

(This analysis is subjective, if you disagree with any point stated or think anything is missing feel free to express so in an intelligent and respectful manner ;) Visca Barca :barca scarf: )
 

Siberia

New member
Dont want him. not even for 40M. I'm like 90% sure he wouldnt fit at barca. And dont give me that crap of you didnt watch him play. Last couple of weeks I've rewatched lots of serie A games and I'm positive this guy wouldnt fit at barca. To me, he's just not a midfielder. 70% of the time when he has the ball, he passes it back to the fullbacks and runs in the box trying to score. We dont need that kinda midfielder.

Again, I'm not saying he's a bad player. He's a great talent and could be a top top player, but he just doesnt suit barca. The guy simply doesnt have any vision. His distribution is also pretty poor, short passes = mediocre... He'd a be great for a team like PSG or Chelsea, but not Barca. I'll tell you guys this, if we buy him, we will be dissapointed. Just look at his stats and you'll know the kinda player he is. 2 assists in serie A says more than enough.

If you dont believe me and are too lazy to watch serie A games, write 'Pogba' on youtube and look at the videos. This is what you'll find: pogba goals, pogba skills, pogba crazy skills, pogba dribbles, pogba skills...

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We dont need skills, we already got enough players with skills. We need playmaking midfielders
 
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Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
I've studied Pogba and Koke very thoroughly this season and came up with this conclusion.

Passing:

- Short passing: This one goes to Koke due to a higher level of awareness regarding his close surroundings. He seems to know who is standing right next to him better.
- Long passing: Pogba is the better long passer. His long balls are more consistently accurate.
- Dead ball delivery: Koke. Simply one of the best dead ball specialist out there. 10 of his 15 Assists have come from dead balls.
- Through balls: Pogba plays them more frequently
- Link up play in the final third: Tie. Although I find Pogba a little more creative and hence more exciting, Koke's Link-up play is on par due to his short passing accuracy.
- Crossing: Hard to tell who is better at it, since both have similar accuracy, but Koke does it more often and a huge chunk of his created chances come from crosses.

Verdict: Koke's short passing game seems like a great fit for the more conservative Barca approach. But if Barca want to stick to the more vertical style of play that Enrique has introduced, Pogba might be better suited.


Defending:

- Positioning: Koke is more aware of his surroundings and therefore better positioned, which shows in his higher interception count.
- Tackling: Although Koke is tackling slightly more often, Pogba has a better success rate.
- Clearances: Tie. Both are equally good.
- Aerial Duels: Pogba wins more bacause of his physicality.
- Discipline: Koke is more disciplined overall since his timing is better, but Pogba has less Yellow Cards, since his fouls are less severe.
- Defensive Workrate/Pressing: Koke works harder.

Verdict: Koke is more Xaviesque when it comes to defending. He covers spaces well, due to his smart positioning and his tackles are well timed. Pogba is more physical, he can bully players of the ball more easily. Koke's defensive Style suits Barca better, but Pogba wouldn't be a misfit.


Technique/Game Intelligence:

- Dribbling: Pogba is quite clearly the better dribbler
- Touch: Koke's first touch lets him down less often, but his overall ball control is inferior to Pogba's.
- Awareness: Koke is superior in this regard
- Vision: Tie. Both Players have great footballing vision
- Creativity: Pogba is more creative in my opinion, but this is a difficult attribute to quantify.
- Decision Making: Koke is slightly better

Verdict: Pogba seems to be more technical, which would fit quite well into Barca's style of offensive play, but Koke's awareness make him more suitable defensively.


Goalscoring:

- Shot: Pogba shots are more accurate and dangerous.
- Finishing: While both are not notoriously cold in front of goal, Pogba is the better finisher.
- Offensive Workrate: Pogba works a little harder going forward.

Verdict: Pogba is a greater goal threat, due to his abilities and style of play. This is quite a handy trait, but no necessity for his position.


Final Conclusion:

They are both great players and a joy to watch. They still have a lot of upward trajectory, considering their young age.

If a Xavi replacement is what we are looking for, Koke would be a better fit, since his zonal marking, pressing and short passing are quite similar to Xavi's. He is simply more defensive than Pogba. I would personally still prefer Verrratti, who would be even more like Xavi. Chances of getting him seem very low though.

Pogba would edge more towards Iniesta's Position, but he wouldn't be a one for one Iniesta replacement, the closest thing to Iniesta would probably be Isco. Pogba would be a robust, but less swift attacking threat, that can inflict midfield dominance as well.

I would actually like to see both in our midfield, but if I had to choose I would probably pick Pogba, since I think his ceiling is higher and his style of play would fit Luis Enrique's vertical approach quite well. Paying 70 Million or more for him is a whole other story though and only time will tell if he can ever justify the huge amount he will definitely be going for.

(This analysis is subjective, if you disagree with any point stated or think anything is missing feel free to express so in an intelligent and respectful manner ;) Visca Barca :barca scarf: )


:cheers: Nathael

Great analysis. I'd add one thing I can think of right now: Mentality! Koke being Spanish is a considerable advantage. Easier to fit in and all.
 

Bertus

New member
Great post.

:cheers: Nathaniel

Great analysis. I'd add one thing I can think of right now: Mentality! Koke being Spanish is a considerable advantage. Easier to fit in and all.
The forum needs to find a way to install that Like button for posts like this. Don't you think :p
 

Bertus

New member
If you help me with a backup ;)
I can.

Let's plan it via PM next week or in two weeks after easter / holidays. That's something needed to be planned in advance and announced on the forum since there's something important to do:

- Closing the forum during the maintenance for backup, because if datas are written in the database while the backup is being created, it can cause error, and corrupted backups.

It doesn't take long tho (1 hour max). Note that since VB version 4.x.x the backup needs to be done via the tool provided by your server hosting service. VB deleted the backup function in the adminCP because it was unreliable.
 

Barcelonista

New member
From what I have seen he is a capable defender. You can not judge his tactical abilities simply because you have seen him play in Juventus. Thats a different system from Barca and Pogba has excelled. For me,he is a complete package.
What I am trying to say is that we cant know how he would adapt at Barca. What the whole world knows is that he is going to retire as one of the best midfielders ever. Barca simply put,cannot afford to miss this opportunity if he wants to come. Big money sure but enormous quality guaranteed.
 

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