Pedro Rodriguez

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
Even in this preseason, has Pedro done a single thing to impress? Munir and Rakatic and Iniesta and Messi and Xavi and Bartra and Mathieu and Halilovic and so on and so forth have all had exemplary performances in preseason but Pedro has been largely anonymous. If he was 18-20 playing at that level he'd have been sent back to Barca B with Dongou and the rest of the lot with no real potential when Lucho sent the first batch of youngsters back to Eusobio. Munir has been our most consistent threat across each game played and will track back and press like his life depends on it but most of us rational people recognize he still has a way to go before he's ready for the first team, but he was still better than Pedro, the supposed veteran who is horrible in front of goal to the point of being a detriment who also has a particularly high defensive work rate.

What you fail to consider is how the youngsters will fare when facing real competition. Not saying they won't do well, but usually that's where inexperience shows, and poor take-ons and misplaced passes at the wrong time can be costly. Pedro, for instance, is still more accurate than Neymar at passing the ball in tight spaces and maintaining possession under pressure, and there are times that will be the better choice. You don't necessarily want all three attackers taking the same level of risks, or test a youngster in a tight game when you don't have to.

(and, though we know his swag and endorsements will continue to grow, we've yet to see if Neymar's finishing likewise improves in his second season against La Liga defenses)
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
What you fail to consider is how the youngsters will fare when facing real competition. Not saying they won't do well, but usually that's where inexperience shows, and poor take-ons and misplaced passes at the wrong time can be costly. Pedro, for instance, is still more accurate than Neymar at passing the ball in tight spaces and maintaining possession under pressure, and there are times that will be the better choice. You don't necessarily want all three attackers taking the same level of risks, or test a youngster in a tight game when you don't have to.

(and, though we know his swag and endorsements will continue to grow, we've yet to see if Neymar's finishing likewise improves in his second season against La Liga defenses)



so basically you would play Pedro instead of Neymar in tough games.
 

Kerrybai

New member
Pedro gets a real tough time on here. Last season Alexis was apparently amazing while only scoring 2 more goals than Pedro. Pedro is not what we need to break down the tough teams but he's a good up back on relatively low wages. He's also a dedicated cule who will happily sit on the bench and play a smaller role for the team. He works hard, has a great conversion rate and never complains.

I'm glad he stayed.
 
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te amo barca

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I'm not. When this guy plays he's almost always invisible. Better give a chance to the youngsters (Munir, Sandro, Deulofeu, Halilovic, Adama)
 

Zangash

Banned
I realize how futile this conversation is looking at your signature, but I'll give it a shot anyways.

What you fail to consider is how the youngsters will fare when facing real competition. Not saying they won't do well, but usually that's where inexperience shows, and poor take-ons and misplaced passes at the wrong time can be costly.

That's odd, because whenever faced with "Real competition" all Pedro does is poor take-ons and his passes are not generally misplaced because they're mostly backwards. His shots, if there ever are any, are usually off target, and his largest contribution in any given game he plays is when he tackles someone in our half of the pitch.

Pedro, for instance, is still more accurate than Neymar at passing the ball in tight spaces and maintaining possession under pressure, and there are times that will be the better choice. You don't necessarily want all three attackers taking the same level of risks, or test a youngster in a tight game when you don't have to.

The bolded part simply isn't true. Even when looking exclusively at Neymar's first season. Neymar had magical linkup play in tight spaces with the likes of Iniesta, Roberto, and Messi on many occasions, even when isolated on the wing, which he won't be anymore. Also, maintaining pointless possession will have far less value now that the team has returned to fighting to regain the ball as soon as it is lost. Deulofeu was sent on loan because he wouldn't do it despite our lack of forwards, and even while our pressing isn't humorously high to a point that it obviously wouldn't be sustainable (As it was with Martino last preseason) it is at a level that shows we'll be able to keep it up while still effectively pressuring our opponents to give possession away. And the days we have to rely on Pedro in a "Tight game" are the days we lose. He hasn't given us a goal that we actually needed since PSG, and that was due to a barely fit Messi and a past his time David Villa doing all the work for him but kicking the ball. This goal also came after an entire season of anonymity.

(and, though we know his swag and endorsements will continue to grow, we've yet to see if Neymar's finishing likewise improves in his second season against La Liga defenses)

Whether his finishing improves or not, he's still easily twice the player Pedro is and that's being generous.
 
Pedro gets a real tough time on here. Last season Alexis was apparently amazing while only scoring 2 more goals than Pedro. Pedro is not what we need to break down the tough teams but he's a good back on relatively low wages. He's also a dedicated cule who will happily sit on the bench and play a smaller role for the team. He works hard, has a great conversion rate and never complains.

I'm glad he stayed.

Goal count isn't everything. Alexis' overall play was way better than Pedro's.
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
Zangash ,


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CesDel

New member
Pedro gets a real tough time on here. Last season Alexis was apparently amazing while only scoring 2 more goals than Pedro. Pedro is not what we need to break down the tough teams but he's a good back on relatively low wages. He's also a dedicated cule who will happily sit on the bench and play a smaller role for the team. He works hard, has a great conversion rate and never complains.

I'm glad he stayed.

You still keep on posting that? When will you get this through your head? Pedro might have scored only 2 less goals, but this was he last season. He would scored a couple of goals in a game that we won by a landslide and then he would go 5 or more games goalless, then he would appear again and score a couple of goals in another game that we won by a landslide and once more go a couple of games goalless. Where as Alexis usually scored less goals in a game, but in more games and also scored more decisive goals..
 
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Kerrybai

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You still keep on posting that? When will you get this through your head? Pedro might have scored only 2 less goals, but this was he last season. He would scored a couple of goals in a game that we won by a landslide and then he would go 5 or more games goalless, then he would appear again and score a couple of goals in another game that we won by a landslide and once more go a couple of games goalless. Where as Alexis usually scored less goals in a game, but in more games and also scored more decisive goals..

His hat tricks against Rayo and Getafe won us the games. Alexis wasn't that much better than him, his goal against Madrid and Atletico are the only major differences.

Pedro is a fine back up player.
 

Maria

New member
What you fail to consider is how the youngsters will fare when facing real competition. Not saying they won't do well, but usually that's where inexperience shows, and poor take-ons and misplaced passes at the wrong time can be costly. Pedro, for instance, is still more accurate than Neymar at passing the ball in tight spaces and maintaining possession under pressure, and there are times that will be the better choice. You don't necessarily want all three attackers taking the same level of risks, or test a youngster in a tight game when you don't have to.

(and, though we know his swag and endorsements will continue to grow, we've yet to see if Neymar's finishing likewise improves in his second season against La Liga defenses)

If there's anything that we need right now is more players taking risks, players who won't just pass the ball to Messi and expect miracles.

His hat tricks against Rayo and Getafe won us the games. Alexis wasn't that much better than him, his goal against Madrid and Atletico are the only major differences.

Pedro is a fine back up player.

Actually we would have won against Rayo even without Pedro's goals. And I couldn't care less about how many goals he scored. He had one good month in the last 3 years with us and I hope to see him as little as possible this season. There are players that have spent all the credit they had IMO and Pedro is one of them.
 
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I'm fine with keeping him as a bench player, but don't expect him to not be a huge downgrade if Neymar or Suarez is injured. Not that we can really do anything about that, because it's not like we can splash 40 million euros or more on a world class forward to stick him on the bench.
 
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CesDel

New member
His hat tricks against Rayo and Getafe won us the games. Alexis wasn't that much better than him, his goal against Madrid and Atletico are the only major differences.

Pedro is a fine back up player.

Against Rayo we won 4-0. Against Getafe, his best game last season, I can agree that his goals were decisive.

Alexis was alot better, hence why 90% of the people prefered to sell Pedro ahead of Alexis and the 9% of the rest prefered to sell Alexis only because we would receive more money from him..
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Against Rayo we won 4-0. Against Getafe, his best game last season, I can agree that his goals were decisive.

Alexis was alot better, hence why 90% of the people prefered to sell Pedro ahead of Alexis and the 9% of the rest prefered to sell Alexis only because we would receive more money from him..

Not just that more money could be got from Sanchez, also the fact that Pedro came through the b team and will be easier to deal with as more of a back up player.

Last season Sanchez was the better player but on average over their Barca careers Pedro was better and more decisive.
 

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