Penal Madrid

[Brombi]

@O_Hal1t: "Florentino Pérez has in 10 years at #realmadrid now spent 1 billion euros."

 

[raskolnikov]

That guy is a big part of why football is ruined nowadays, his moronic galactico projects and making the marketprices go up for years.

Him and the oil clubs, a cancer to the sport.

 

[Der Kaiser]

That guy is a big part of why football is ruined nowadays, his moronic galactico projects and making the marketprices go up for years.

Him and the oil clubs, a cancer to the sport.

They've also paid for a lot of club's debts with these ridiculous prices. For some clubs the inflated market is a curse, for others its a blessing.

 

[Brombi]

They've also paid for a lot of club's debts with these ridiculous prices. For some clubs the inflated market is a curse, for others its a blessing.

That's not frequent. What's frequent is that small clubs can't follow in on high transfervalues.

 

[Der Kaiser]

That's not frequent. What's frequent is that small clubs can't follow in on high transfervalues.

They are not competing with small clubs when it comes to signing players though. There will always be bargains and homegrowns, the stars however have gotten alot more expensive due to the new rich clubs on the market. All they do is bring more money into the industry, Im sure clubs like Malaga and San Sebastian are loving it since they need money.

 

[Brombi]

They are not competing with small clubs when it comes to signing players though. There will always be bargains and homegrowns, the stars however have gotten alot more expensive due to the new rich clubs on the market. All they do is bring more money into the industry, Im sure clubs like Malaga and San Sebastian are loving it since they need money.

I don't believe that only stars have become expensive. It creates inflationary conditions in the market of football players, which affects all clubs and players. Unlike an international economy where this isn't a problem because the value of money follows inflation, this is a problem in football. This is especially a problem for middle sized clubs like for instance FC Copenhagen or Plzeň.

 

[Der Kaiser]

I don't believe that only stars have become expensive. It creates inflationary conditions in the market of football players, which affects all clubs and players. Unlike an international economy where this isn't a problem because the value of money follows inflation, this is a problem in football. This is especially a problem for middle sized clubs like for instance FC Copenhagen or Plzeň.

Yes, like I said, some clubs benefit from the inflation and others dont. Well run clubs now have to pay more for players while broke clubs can now ask for more.

 

[Raed]

It's only been promise for Madrid for over 10-12 years

EDIT: I also like how Carvajal is now the most promising RB in the world

Sold to Germany and then bought back after Neymar essentially ended Arbeloa's career at the top level.

Carvajal was purchsed before the Confeds started because of his performances in Germany and being one of the most highly rated RBs in the league. Arbeloa's career has nothing to do with Carvajal, and least of which, Neymar. Please, don't spew inaccurate information on this board.

 

[Raed]

Of course, but with any player there is a risk factor. Sahin was player of the season in Germany and he failed at Madrid. Alexis was player of the season in Italy and he has had a lot of difficulty at Barca. There are factors that increase risk(being young, changing league, playing in a different system, position on the pitch). Three young players carry a lot of risk, especially at Real Madrid who have a recent history of players not succeeding, the likes of Adan, Canales, Granero, Callejon, Soldado, Miguel Torres etc.

Carvajal has the easiest job since he is at RB so a bit out of the way, but it remains to be seen how good he is. He is the least proven of the three. I don't see why Wallbreaker is comparing him with Montoya. Montoya has proven he can play well at Barca, fit into the system effectively and cope with the pressure. Carvajal has proven nothing at Madrid, there's not even a guarantee that he'd even displace Arbeloa.

Isco and Illa are more proven, especially Isco who's done well in the Champions League. But they play in the midfield which means they'd be crucial to the system so it's not just their individual quality that matters but also their ability to make the midfield and thus entire team cohesive. They also have a lot of competition and could just fail to make an impact the same as Granero and Sahin, you know, it just happens. Madrid is the most demanding club in the world and the fans want success now, it's a big challenge for them.

At the moment, anything is better than Arbeloa who is still a decent defender but a horrible on the offensive. He had 1 bad season in Real Madrid and because he is the least likable player, he was picked on the most. However, the entire team was malfunctioning. However, by his own admission, he did play poorly and I am sure Carvajal will be a step up as long as he puts in the effort.

Make no mistake, none of the new purchases will feature as much as their fee would suggest. They will be part of next season, and Ancelotti who is more harmony than brute won't quickly disrupt the team chemistry. The team before the purchases was one of the best, just needed a bit of luck, and tactical liberation and risk. We were whiskers away from the final of the CL so the team is excellent.

Isco, Illa both have a lot to do, just because we purchased them for a lot doesn't mean we guarantee them spots at all, it is one of the reasons why we missed out on Neymar. The last player we gave a guaranteed spot was Beckham, and it was beginning of our demise. If Sahin worked hard and was confident, he would have earned a spot, but he didn't. Callejon with half his skill worked his balls off and got the nod.

It is the way at Madrid now, you put in the effort you get a starting position. So yes you are right this is one hell of a demanding team and it is a lot of pressure but it all depends on how well they take it. Ozil was running out of breathe but then morphed into a monster so he gets the fan's affection. I don't see how Isco and Illa who are both spanish and played in La Liga before would not see they they have to work their asses off. They know it, they just have to do it.

And yes you are right, they could easily be flops but as time will tell, the club will give them the platform they need. I hope they grab the bull by the horn with two firm hands.

 

[Corb]

Karanka out of RM.

Karanka portugués!!

 

[barca1899]

Karanka portugués!!

 

[Doobs]

Carvajal was purchsed before the Confeds started because of his performances in Germany and being one of the most highly rated RBs in the league. Arbeloa's career has nothing to do with Carvajal, and least of which, Neymar. Please, don't spew inaccurate information on this board.

Arbeloa was terrible before the confeds too. Everybody knew Neymar would expose him, heck, Brazil's tactics on the counter were based on Neymar vs him. Hyping up Carvajal just because he re-signed doesn't make him a the most promising RB in the world. If that's what you're saying.

 

[Raed]

Arbeloa was terrible before the confeds too. Everybody knew Neymar would expose him, heck, Brazil's tactics on the counter were based on Neymar vs him. Hyping up Carvajal just because he re-signed doesn't make him a the most promising RB in the world. If that's what you're saying.

Your argument would be valid had Fred not scored from the right after Arbeloa left and had Alba not been beating by Hulk on the left for the cross in the first couple of minutes. Arbeloa was shit, sure, but Carvajal was brought back because we needed another RB and he performed really well in the BundesLiga. Simple. Not because Neymar ended Arby's career, as you suggested. The requirement for a substitue for Arbeloa was noted last season.

 

[Doobs]

I didn't know he was signed before the confeds. My bad.

 

[BarcaOG]

where's he off to?