Pep Guardiola

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Mike the Knife
I'm not talking about whether a player will leave because Pep says so, I'm talking about whether Pep would try to buy one of Barcelona's players if the opportunity arose and the answer is yes, whether people want to admit it or not

Opportunity arising translates to what exactly?...Only if a player was unsettled is my take, otherwise Barcelona doesn't put players on the market unless they are unsettled...So unless you're talking about players already on their way out, you're talking exactly about poaching talent
 

Xtroverto

Member
Why would he feel under-appreciated though? He's just about the single most certain starter on the team, aside from Messi of course, and is constantly being lavished with praise from staff and players alike. Would it be a wage problem? I've never had any doubts, though, that he'll become a barca legend like Xavi, Puyol and Iniesta, and retire at the club.

It would most certainly be a financial issue, we'll see how the club handles his contract renewal. Remember Guardiolas contract debacle (when he was a player), the club f***** ** majorly and he eventually left. Same thing can happen with Busquets.
 
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Cristofol

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Opportunity arising translates to what exactly?...Only if a player was unsettled is my take, otherwise Barcelona doesn't put players on the market unless they are unsettled...So unless you're talking about players already on their way out, you're talking exactly about poaching talent

Lol I am really not. I shall put this into basic terms as clearly you are having trouble. A loyal Barcelona player who has no intention of leaving, would Pep try to poach them? - No. A player who see's themselves somewhere else, Barça says fine, off you go - Would Pep contact Barça about buying said player -Yes. Simples :okay:

I am not nor did I say there is a player who wants to leave and Pep will influence them out. I am not nor did I say Pep would attempt to poach players, I actually specifically said he wouldn't. I am also not saying that Pep holds more importance in a players mind than the club itself. It is as simple as this - The question: Would Pep ever attempt to buy a Barcelona player - Answer : If they were on the market yes.
 

UberNjufer

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Lol I am really not. I shall put this into basic terms as clearly you are having trouble. A loyal Barcelona player who has no intention of leaving, would Pep try to poach them? - No. A player who see's themselves somewhere else, Barça says fine, off you go - Would Pep contact Barça about buying said player -Yes. Simples :okay:

I am not nor did I say there is a player who wants to leave and Pep will influence them out. I am not nor did I say Pep would attempt to poach players, I actually specifically said he wouldn't. I am also not saying that Pep holds more importance in a players mind than the club itself. It is as simple as this - The question: Would Pep ever attempt to buy a Barcelona player - Answer : If they were on the market yes.
:yes:
 

Xtroverto

Member
Lol I am really not. I shall put this into basic terms as clearly you are having trouble. A loyal Barcelona player who has no intention of leaving, would Pep try to poach them? - No. A player who see's themselves somewhere else, Barça says fine, off you go - Would Pep contact Barça about buying said player -Yes. Simples :okay:

I am not nor did I say there is a player who wants to leave and Pep will influence them out. I am not nor did I say Pep would attempt to poach players, I actually specifically said he wouldn't. I am also not saying that Pep holds more importance in a players mind than the club itself. It is as simple as this - The question: Would Pep ever attempt to buy a Barcelona player - Answer : If they were on the market yes.

Let's say Pep decides to go to City, he asks the club to sign Busquest and with the help of his channels manage to convince him to join him in City outside of the clubs knolwedge. City offer Barcelona a deal and Busquets ask for a transfer, he also refuse to renew his contract. Now, Guardiola arrive at the club and Busi is waiting for him there, he was never involved with the transfer (officially) and no one can say he poached his old club.
 

Cristofol

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I should probably mention, I am autistic and as English is not my native language I have been told I can often appear sarcastic, if this is the case, my apologies. :blush:
 

Cristofol

New member
Let's say Pep decides to go to City, he asks the club to sign Busquest and with the help of his channels manage to convince him to join him in City outside of the clubs knolwedge. City offer Barcelona a deal and Busquets ask for a transfer, he also refuse to renew his contract. Now, Guardiola arrive at the club and Busi is waiting for him there, he was never involved with the transfer (officially) and no one can say he poached his old club.

Crafty indeed, and this kind of thing happens in football, I would hate to think Pep would do such a thing so before any thoughts can manifest I shall outright say no way :lol: and return to my happy place haha
 

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
Lol I am really not. I shall put this into basic terms as clearly you are having trouble. A loyal Barcelona player who has no intention of leaving, would Pep try to poach them? - No. A player who see's themselves somewhere else, Barça says fine, off you go - Would Pep contact Barça about buying said player -Yes. Simples :okay:

Actually, I agree with this. Busquets isn't a good example because it's very unlikely the club has any interest in selling him, actually none of the canteras are probably available because of the club's current strategy (which comes from a mix of footballing reasons, greater philosophy, and marketing). But my prediction is that if Pep goes to either City or Chelsea, Villa is following him there.

Your English is good BTW.
 

Cristofol

New member
Actually, I agree with this. Busquets isn't a good example because it's very unlikely the club has any interest in selling him, actually none of the canteras are probably available because of the club's current strategy (which comes from a mix of footballing reasons, greater philosophy, and marketing). But my prediction is that if Pep goes to either City or Chelsea, Villa is following him there.

Your English is good BTW.

Thank you :)

I think if any transaction between Barcelona and Pep were to happen I cannot see it being anything less than friendly, whether it be Pep inquiring about the sale of a FCB player or visa versa
 

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
Well that's the thing, I can see Pep trying to get former players for cheap who the club is planning to sell anyway. Barca has a poor track record in getting value for its assets anyway.

Villa is the perfect example of this. He's old-ish but not finished, isn't in Barca's plans, appears to be on very good terms with Pep already, and multiple English clubs want him anyway.

There's an outside chance Mascherano will be another option, but considering Barca's defensive issues and his friendship with Messi, it's less likely.
 

Cristofol

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Well that's the thing, I can see Pep trying to get former players for cheap who the club is planning to sell anyway. Barca has a poor track record in getting value for its assets anyway.

Villa is the perfect example of this. He's old-ish but not finished, isn't in Barca's plans, appears to be on very good terms with Pep already, and multiple English clubs want him anyway.

There's an outside chance Mascherano will be another option, but considering Barca's defensive issues and his friendship with Messi, it's less likely.

Ah, the impending break up of MVP :( *sigh*
 

Trickykid

Active member
It would most certainly be a financial issue, we'll see how the club handles his contract renewal. Remember Guardiolas contract debacle (when he was a player), the club f***** ** majorly and he eventually left. Same thing can happen with Busquets.

Do you happen to know which, and with whom, wage group Busi is currently in?
When Guardiola left, the club was in an intirely different state than now though, with the finances being absolutely horrible and the club in complete disarray. The post Nuñez/beginning Gaspart period was just horrible. So I don't think it's very relevant to draw comparisons here.
 
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PhilS

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It would most certainly be a financial issue, we'll see how the club handles his contract renewal. Remember Guardiolas contract debacle (when he was a player), the club f***** ** majorly and he eventually left. Same thing can happen with Busquets.

Busquets is a better player than Pep ever was. Barca will hold on to Busquets.

There are other players who might go to Pep's new team. Maybe Alves or Villa.
 
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Flavia

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My statement is not about any Barcelona player it is exactly what it said. Is my English really that bad?

No, but the cardinal sin FCBarca was talking about was most definitely about poaching, not if Pep went for players on the market. I don't think anyone would have a problem with Pep getting a player that wants out.
 

Cristofol

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No, but the cardinal sin FCBarca was talking about was most definitely about poaching, not if Pep went for players on the market. I don't think anyone would have a problem with Pep getting a player that wants out.

I know, I was just addressing the subject of Pep buying players in general, that he wouldn't poach.
 

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