Pep Guardiola

[BarcaGirl]

I love Pep, but to me his departure seemed, that he wanted to leave a sinking ship. But that's just my Impression.

And with taking over Bayern, he took the easiest route.

 

[Garrus]

That's quite the judgemental post. There were a lot of thing in background that influenced his departure, including rosell. It's not easy to be coach at Barça.

Yet it's easy for him to be a coach for a team that qualified to the CL finals 2 times in the last 3 years, And sign a 3-year contract with them, You're right it is a judgmental post, And most of the stuff are just 'conclusions' from my own end, I certainly don't claim to know any better than everyone else, But i guess you too can't know the the real 'truth', You can't prove that there were 'Outside' influences or rosell is to be blamed.
His departure left a very bad taste in my mouth and still does, I guess disappointment in his decision and him had a big part, But i certainly hold true to what i said at the end, It's only about barcelona for me, I don't understand why should i 'worship' a guy who left FCB by his own will, Yet i very much appreciate everything he has done for us, But that's the extent of it, For me anyway.

 

[Irish_Cules]

I love Pep, but to me his departure seemed, that he wanted to leave a sinking ship. But that's just my Impression.

And with taking over Bayern, he took the easiest route.

Even when we were at our peak he always said that managing Barca was a short term thing and he would not go on longer than approximately 4 years. A sinking ship is a bit exaggerated also......we lost the league to a very strong Madrid and won the Club World Cup and Copa del Rey. He left behind a team capable of winning any trophy.

 

[Ode to Django]

I think near the end he was tinkering so many things trying to keep the players motivated, I think he was right to leave at that time, some weren't responding as well before.

But yeah disappointed he chose Bayern, i wanted to see him test himself, that's how i imagine his character. For me going to Bayern now is a lose-lose situation, loses the league - complete failure, wins it - Nothing special.

 

[Flavia]

Yet it's easy for him to be a coach for a team that qualified to the CL finals 2 times in the last 3 years, And sign a 3-year contract with them, You're right it is a judgmental post, And most of the stuff are just 'conclusions' from my own end, I certainly don't claim to know any better than everyone else, But i guess you too can't know the the real 'truth', You can't prove that there were 'Outside' influences or rosell is to be blamed.
His departure left a very bad taste in my mouth and still does, I guess disappointment in his decision and him had a big part, But i certainly hold true to what i said at the end, It's only about barcelona for me, I don't understand why should i 'worship' a guy who left FCB by his own will, Yet i very much appreciate everything he has done for us, But that's the extent of it, For me anyway.

No need to worship him. I don't, I just respect the guy. And precisely because I can't know all the reasons why he left, I try not to judge. Because it's too easy to do that from afar, knowing little to nothing. Saying he left for personal glory, for instance. More glory than he had at Barça? I doubt he'll ever manage that.

 

[Garrus]

To say you don't care about him any more after all he did for the club is bad form. What is worse though is that you are saying that he left for his own personal glory and is lying about becoming exhausted.

That's the look of a tired man. Maybe he could have stayed on but after everything he did for the club he had the right to walk away if he wanted to. He has no obligation to you or the club to stay there forever. It's his life, his choice. You are the selfish one here if you show that sort of attitude because he left.

Who said i don't appreciate him?, In fact i remember saying the exact opposite, You should read carefully next time.
Why is it so hard to believe that he might to something for his own glory, Why everyone is forcefully trying to give him an image of a pure 'Saint' Can you provide a proof that he never even thought of himself?, I don't think you can.
No one said he has to do anything against his will, He doesn't owe barca anything, And he can leave whenever he wants, Yet i don't have to care about him anymore now do i?, Which is exactly my point.

 

[Irish_Cules]

Who said i don't appreciate him?, In fact i remember saying the exact opposite, You should read carefully next time.
Why is it so hard to believe that he might to something for his own glory, Why everyone is forcefully trying to give him an image of a pure 'Saint' Can you provide a proof that he never even thought of himself?, I don't think you can.
No one said he has to do anything against his will, He doesn't owe barca anything, And he can leave whenever he wants, Yet i don't have to care about him anymore now do i?, Which is exactly my point.

Eh...where did I say you don't appreciate him? Maybe YOU should read carefully next time.

Of course you have the right not to care about him any more, although I find that a bit strange considering everything he did for Barca. The overall tone of your post seemed to be harsh on Pep. Saying things like 'yeah right' to the notion of him being exhausted from it all. It seems to be a fairly ruthless attitude to have towards a man who has provided you with so much joy over the last few years.

 

[Garrus]

No need to worship him. I don't, I just respect the guy. And precisely because I can't know all the reasons why he left, I try not to judge. Because it's too easy to do that from afar, knowing little to nothing. Saying he left for personal glory, for instance. More glory than he had at Barça? I doubt he'll ever manage that.

I do respect him, My eyes turned water when i watched him announcing his departure in that press conference, And got depressed for a few days after that.
What bothers is when other cules somehow see it as 'Blasphemy' when someone even suggest anything other than a perfect image of pep, Like for example he left for his own self ambitions, I don't understand what's in that that's hard to believe.
I think he wanted to prove that he can succeed outside of barcelona.

Eh...where did I say you don't appreciate him? Maybe YOU should read carefully next time.

Of course you have the right not to care about him any more, although I find that a bit strange considering everything he did for Barca. The overall tone of your post seemed to be harsh on Pep. Saying things like 'yeah right' to the notion of him being exhausted from it all. It seems to be a fairly ruthless attitude to have towards a man who has provided you with so much joy over the last few years.

mmm, I think my above post is also a good reply to yours

 

[Yaya]

The man that actually made Barcelona defend set-pieces at an elite level. One and only.

 

[kollegah]

villa out -> keita in, loved this sub from pep

 

[Andrew M]

The man that actually made Barcelona defend set-pieces at an elite level. One and only.

Elite level? I remember the Busquets own goal from the corner against Arsenal

I feel like we criticise Barca for being so dependent on Messi, but was it not Pep who propagated this culture? He made the team serve Messi in the first place. He was the one who seemed obsessed with midfielders being in every position.

 

[Clockwise]

Guys I understand, Guardiola, our most beloved ex coach is going to coach the very same team that put 4 past us and quite frankly mopped alianz arena with us and the emotions are high but lets always keep perspective. Yeah not all of us approved of him leaving and so on but he also did so much for us.

And man, Barca's defence has always been pure sh*t but Pep had loved the team and made them love him so they played to make pep happy and somehow Pep got 110 percent by using psychology. However the team was getting nearer and nearer to the impending phase of a need to clean up (like the start of his job) and I think it highly probable that although Pep had no problem with it Rosell and co were not ready to roll along.
That, and many other reasons made Pep not want to stay at Barca because perhaps he didnt want to see Barcelona on a slippery slope getting down on it's knees with his responsibility, infront of his eyes while he is standing there helpless. Tito was pretty brave taking it from Pep like that (and also not going with his best friend to the his next team) but alas bravery is not always enough and I think Tito was not really ready to get into a coach position from an assistant but kudos to him for manning up to try his best.
I wish nothing but the best for the guy and I wish nothing but a super heavy crushing loss for Pep's new shiny team

villa out -> keita in, loved this sub from pep

Ahhhh Pep's Villa hate sub signiture :villa:

To say you don't care about him any more after all he did for the club is bad form. What is worse though is that you are saying that he left for his own personal glory and is lying about becoming exhausted.

That's the look of a tired man. Maybe he could have stayed on but after everything he did for the club he had the right to walk away if he wanted to. He has no obligation to you or the club to stay there forever. It's his life, his choice. You are the selfish one here if you show that sort of attitude because he left.

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But No, thats not the look of a tired man and Pep was not a kind of man to get tired of coaching...that's the look of a guy who lost hair and weight and grew a considerable number of white hair and a real bad back in the span of , 4, FOUR years. Now I dont call it healthy aging man. he HAD put his everything into the club. his life and heath and youth and many things most of us will not put into the equation for the success of our beloved club but he did.

 

[Deco 20]

I think near the end he was tinkering so many things trying to keep the players motivated, I think he was right to leave at that time, some weren't responding as well before.

But yeah disappointed he chose Bayern, i wanted to see him test himself, that's how i imagine his character. For me going to Bayern now is a lose-lose situation, loses the league - complete failure, wins it - Nothing special.

Yeah it's turned out pretty bad for him

 

[Yaya]

Elite level? I remember the Busquets own goal from the corner against Arsenal

I feel like we criticise Barca for being so dependent on Messi, but was it not Pep who propagated this culture? He made the team serve Messi in the first place. He was the one who seemed obsessed with midfielders being in every position.

So one goal must mean it wasn't at elite level right? Lol.

 

[Andrew M]

So one goal must mean it wasn't at elite level right? Lol.

Elite level is elite level.