Pep Guardiola

Meitux

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Its like he tells him ''I dont play with a stiker'' :pep:
 

Maria

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I completely agree!
This Bayern's treble is a lot closer to Inter's, than our 2009 treble in my opinion. Even though Inter was lucky to beat us, while we looked toothless to say the least against Bayern this year.
Pep is a romantic and he will try to play attacking football, unlike Heynckes, who was more of a pragmatist. During his presentation at Bayern, when Pep asked about his philosophy, he just said: I like to attack.

So you can only atack if you have over 50% possession? I would say that you're the romantic, not Pep.

Pep: “I became a coach to find out what the opponent does, to find the answers.”
Pep: "You can’t always do what you want and depending on the form of your players, you have to be pragmatic sometimes."
Pep: “Football is like chess. You need to know what the opponent does, their movements, to make adjustments.”

What a romantic is this Pep!

Is it safe to say that guardioa is resposible for one of the best barca's ever but at the same time he's responsible for the decline of Barca? The year that Cesc was signed, our priority should have been a defender (everyone could see that, Abidal was sick, puyol getting old and with injuries, pique wasn't the same).

I think you're confusing the 2010-2011 season with Pep's last season and Song with Cesc.

Now, b.c of Cesc, (unnecesary signing) Thiago lost so many minutes and he lost a great opportunity to continue to grow and develop into even a better player than what he is today. Cesc doesn't fit into barca's system and the team sucks now. And now Thiago will leave.

Strange that Thiago didn't want to leave in 2012 though..wouldn't you say so? Especially after Pep only used him in 52 games and 38 of those were starts.
And it's funny to read that Cesc doesn't fit in Barca's system and that's why the team sucks on the same page where I found out that Pep is a romantic that won't adapt to his players..especially when the team that we support refused to adapt at Xavi's decline and find new solutions.

today, there aren't as many options for signing a good CB as in the past. So we are left with no good CB

Yeah..there aren't as many options as last year when Thiago Silva was available, but because Pep decided that Song could play at a CB Rosell didn't buy him.

no good midfielder to replace Xavi.

Why would you want to replace Xavi when he said that he wants/needs to play every 3 days? I'm sure that Pep also had something to do with this.

I can't imagine Pep and the Bayern board getting along well with each other. They're close-minded, conservative braggers while he's... the complete opposite. He just doesn't seem to fit their philosophy.

Yeah..he would definitelly get along better with the man that forced his mentor to resign from his position as president of honour because "it does not fit in with the statutes", but did everything in his power to bring the Boixois Nois back. And after the 2 games against Bayern and the things that our president and our coach had to say I wouldn't call the people from Bayern "braggers".
 
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Mr Hulot

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So you can only atack if you have over 50% possession? I would say that you're the romantic, not Pep.

Pep: “I became a coach to find out what the opponent does, to find the answers.”
Pep: "You can’t always do what you want and depending on the form of your players, you have to be pragmatic sometimes."
Pep: “Football is like chess. You need to know what the opponent does, their movements, to make adjustments.”

What a romantic is this Pep!

Bayern under Heynckes played attacking football for the most part, but against us, against Madrid last year etc. they accepted the role of a counter attacking team. In my opinion Pep would have played his same attacking minded possession game with the high defensive line. That is pure speculation, but that is what he did in Barcelona. He never stayed back and gave the ball to the other team like Heynckes, Mourinho or Ferguson. Tito did the same to an extent this year as well. I do believe that if we had a more conservative approach our weak defense wouldn't have been exposed that much against Bayern or even Chelsea last year. Hence the pragmatist vs romantic thing.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Bayern under Heynckes played attacking football for the most part, but against us, against Madrid last year etc. they accepted the role of a counter attacking team. In my opinion Pep would have played his same attacking minded possession game with the high defensive line. That is pure speculation, but that is what he did in Barcelona. He never stayed back and gave the ball to the other team like Heynckes, Mourinho or Ferguson. Tito did the same to an extent this year as well. I do believe that if we had a more conservative approach our weak defense wouldn't have been exposed that much against Bayern or even Chelsea last year. Hence the pragmatist vs romantic thing.

IMO the versatility of playing style is what makes Bayern a superior side to us now. We stuck with tiki taka for ages, actually imposing it on our opposition and not playing any other way. Eventually the play started to dull and football evolved to make us less impacting and unstoppable. Bayern have a massive advantage right now in the sense that their players are so versatile in ability that they can play any style they choose to. Bayern generally play a possession game, but they can counterattack with massive effect if they need to, they have different types of players ready to interchange different roles, they are physically superior, and they are as good on the ground as they are in the air. A key factor is that their system molds to fit their needs, not a single accepted one. Right now Barcelona are on the search to find duplicate replacements for Xavi and Iniesta, etc. while Bayern could have 8-9 different types of combinations in midfield/attack for now and the future that are all deadly and successful. We didn't evolve as a side, that's why we're declining. As we get lower, we'll ultimately be forced to adapt and make major changes, but no one really sees the need to do that now.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
IMO the versatility of playing style is what makes Bayern a superior side to us now. We stuck with tiki taka for ages, actually imposing it on our opposition and not playing any other way. Eventually the play started to dull and football evolved to make us less impacting and unstoppable. Bayern have a massive advantage right now in the sense that their players are so versatile in ability that they can play any style they choose to. Bayern generally play a possession game, but they can counterattack with massive effect if they need to, they have different types of players ready to interchange different roles, they are physically superior, and they are as good on the ground as they are in the air. A key factor is that their system molds to fit their needs, not a single accepted one. Right now Barcelona are on the search to find duplicate replacements for Xavi and Iniesta, etc. while Bayern could have 8-9 different types of combinations in midfield/attack for now and the future that are all deadly and successful. We didn't evolve as a side, that's why we're declining. As we get lower, we'll ultimately be forced to adapt and make major changes, but no one really sees the need to do that now.

A better balanced defence and a fit Messi/Busquets and Naymar in attack I would still have Barca as the stronger side going forward.
 

Meitux

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IMO the versatility of playing style is what makes Bayern a superior side to us now. We stuck with tiki taka for ages, actually imposing it on our opposition and not playing any other way. Eventually the play started to dull and football evolved to make us less impacting and unstoppable. Bayern have a massive advantage right now in the sense that their players are so versatile in ability that they can play any style they choose to. Bayern generally play a possession game, but they can counterattack with massive effect if they need to, they have different types of players ready to interchange different roles, they are physically superior, and they are as good on the ground as they are in the air. A key factor is that their system molds to fit their needs, not a single accepted one. Right now Barcelona are on the search to find duplicate replacements for Xavi and Iniesta, etc. while Bayern could have 8-9 different types of combinations in midfield/attack for now and the future that are all deadly and successful. We didn't evolve as a side, that's why we're declining. As we get lower, we'll ultimately be forced to adapt and make major changes, but no one really sees the need to do that now.
Tottaly agree,Pep has really some better squad at the moment and can work out many tactics.Its not only about brining a CB and its all done,i think there need to be some vital changes in order to become top again.I think one of Bayerns key is that they have powerfull midfield,with Martinez as DM and Schweinsteiger playing box to box while we have only Busquets and the weak Xavi and Iniesta cant provide any defensive cover
 

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