Pep Guardiola

[Ryan_Cule]

Thiago isn't leaving for money though, he's leaving for more playing-time (he'll reportedly only earn 2M net at Bayern which is rather low, I guess at Barca he doesn't earn much less). Which makes the whole transfer so weird, why leave to Bayern, who're even more stacked in midfield than we are!?

That was a hypothetical reply. Because he asked about Busi.

 

[Cruijffista]

Yeah, Pep was absolutely right about Ibrahimovic and Sanchez. (Please sense the sarcasm.)

I have no question that Neymar will end up being one of our most important signings. Could you have imagined what would have went down if Rosell didn't get the deal done before the Confederations Cup started.

 

[JamDav1982]

1. Cruyff had a big mouth, still it was in defense of Laporta's reign and all that the club stood for, criticizing Rosell as a president. And the Neymar thing was an obvious joke, anyone should know that
2. He appointed Eusebio to have one of his own people in control, decreasing the amount of authority against him in the club. Besides at least Pep let go of his bad transfers, Rosell kept him there and uses him as a pawn.
3. Lot's of staff have changed since Laporta left, he's taken out anyone supporting him and instead imposed less than useless idiots who act as "yes men", bowing down to Rosell.
4. Not just about appointing Tito, but how he used Tito. The guy had little authority over the team and nothing was brought to change the footballing aspect of things, leaving our gaping holes to only get bitter. It was in a failed attempt to copy Pep's system by not messing with it.
5. All presidents are highly influential in our transfer market endeavors but seriously all Rosell is looking for is marketing and big names/sponsorships, he could hardly care about the footballing side of things. There is no "double standard" or "free pass" for Pep not signing a defender, that was a football related mistake and he clearly thought that his current team could handle things. Pep was obviously much more involved and thought out about the footballing side of things, whereas for Rosell it's mainly neglect.

That is one of the most biased one sided opinions I have ever read.

Yeah who cares about bad transfers as long as you try and get rid of them!!!

The transfers over the last three years have been much better - established players at a good price that could be sold on for minimal loss if doesnt work out.

Tito failed last season? No it was a better season than the one before thats a fact.

 

[DonAndres]

That is one of the most biased one sided opinions I have ever read.

Yeah who cares about bad transfers as long as you try and get rid of them!!!

The transfers over the last three years have been much better - established players at a good price that could be sold on for minimal loss if doesnt work out.

Tito failed last season? No it was a better season than the one before thats a fact.

I'm trying to say that Pep making bad transfers is entirely different from Rosell giving positions to undeserving people. They were mistakes on Pep's part, granted. However Rosell was deliberately trying to shift the power into his favor by putting his pawns into positions of power and shutting out Laporta's people. Eusebio, Zubi, Roura, and Tito do not compare even slightly to Txiki, Enrique, Pep, etc. but they were appointed simply because they support Rosell.

I'm not talking about Tito failing (which is a subject you are very itchy to argue about and pass off as fact), I'm talking about the lack of authority under Tito. The entire philosophy of last season was "leave things as they are and see how that works" with Tito and then Roura acting as passive coaches who didn't change much.

 

[Birdy]

Ryan_cule said it as clear as it can get with his 6 bullet-points..
Some people are so delusional that they prefer their fantasy world than reality.. Its your problem guys.. I always see reality, and reality is that Thiago wanted to leave bcz of playing time, and he would have gone no matter what..

Abc football and communication is that you rarely learn something out of player's mouth especially when the process is ongoing. You might learn from the involved parties from interviews after a while, or after a long while.....
The way you learn is simply by journalistic leaks - has been working for ages like this.. When there is smoke, there must be fire somewhere.. When you hear from various media and journalists that he wants to leave, its pretty obvious that he himself or the club have spread the 'rumour' in the first place..


Apart from that, its pathetic to see that this is the level of the club cules. As ryan said greedy and fanatic glory-hunters.. The same people worshiping Pep and kicking verbally anyone trying to criticize him two years ago..

 

[Leo10]

The timing of Pep's anti-Rosell rant seems strange though? Why did he specifically backlash against Rosell today, on the same day as in which he announced his possible signing of Thiago? Did he want to regain some sympathy among the Cules after undoubtedly losing some for announcing the Thiago-stuff?

Is this his first press-conference at Bayern since signing for them maybe?

Coincidence or not we don't know.

What we do know is every word Pep said today was true. That Rosell tried to hurt his image, saying Pep didn't visit Tito in the hospital when in fact he did.

Is there one member on this forum that thinks Pep lied in today's press conference?

Pep wanting Thiago is another story.

 

[JamDav1982]

1. Cruyff had a big mouth, still it was in defense of Laporta's reign and all that the club stood for, criticizing Rosell as a president. And the Neymar thing was an obvious joke, anyone should know that
2. He appointed Eusebio to have one of his own people in control, decreasing the amount of authority against him in the club. Besides at least Pep let go of his bad transfers, Rosell kept him there and uses him as a pawn.
3. Lot's of staff have changed since Laporta left, he's taken out anyone supporting him and instead imposed less than useless idiots who act as "yes men", bowing down to Rosell.
4. Not just about appointing Tito, but how he used Tito. The guy had little authority over the team and nothing was brought to change the footballing aspect of things, leaving our gaping holes to only get bigger. It was in a failed attempt to copy Pep's system by not messing with it.
5. All presidents are highly influential in our transfer market endeavors but seriously all Rosell is looking for is marketing and big names/sponsorships, he could hardly care about the footballing side of things. There is no "double standard" or "free pass" for Pep not signing a defender, that was a football related mistake and he clearly thought that his current team could handle things. Pep was obviously much more involved and thought out about the footballing side of things, whereas for Rosell it's mainly neglect.

OK back to this post as there are so many sweeping statements that are nothing but your own biased opinion -

1. What was all the club stood for under Laporta that they no longer stand for?
2. Why is Eusebio 'one of his own people'? And how is he used as a pawn?
3. Who has he gotten rid of that supported Laporta? Surely that is normal practise for new presidents to take their own men in?
4. What influence does he have over Tito and team affairs?
5. What evidence is there that he is only interested in marketable players regardless of their ability?

 

[unknowngenius10]

1. Cruyff had a big mouth, still it was in defense of Laporta's reign and all that the club stood for, criticizing Rosell as a president. And the Neymar thing was an obvious joke, anyone should know that
2. He appointed Eusebio to have one of his own people in control, decreasing the amount of authority against him in the club. Besides at least Pep let go of his bad transfers, Rosell kept him there and uses him as a pawn.
3. Lot's of staff have changed since Laporta left, he's taken out anyone supporting him and instead imposed less than useless idiots who act as "yes men", bowing down to Rosell.
4. Not just about appointing Tito, but how he used Tito. The guy had little authority over the team and nothing was brought to change the footballing aspect of things, leaving our gaping holes to only get bigger. It was in a failed attempt to copy Pep's system by not messing with it.
5. All presidents are highly influential in our transfer market endeavors but seriously all Rosell is looking for is marketing and big names/sponsorships, he could hardly care about the footballing side of things. There is no "double standard" or "free pass" for Pep not signing a defender, that was a football related mistake and he clearly thought that his current team could handle things. Pep was obviously much more involved and thought out about the footballing side of things, whereas for Rosell it's mainly neglect.

1) No one in the spain media ever took it as a joke. People didn't take as a joke either (b.c they already know the guy) He even said it twice in different ways. He later went on to say in another interview that Messi and Neymar could never get along b.c of their egos. You keep using what the "club stood for" but those words are empty b.c you don't really specify what you are referring to, so i can't comment on that. You have to show that letting go of Cruyff was a bad idea, but so far you haven't not given reasons as to why this is the case.
2) "He appointed Eusebio to have one of his own people in control." So how exactly is this bad? don't presidents have people who trust surrounding them? I don't see anything wrong with florentino giving zidane a place in madrid b.c he trusts him and are friends. This is nothing that no other president in the world of football does. A president is suppose to have control over the club and be surrounded by people he can trust. Now , you also say that Pep "let go of his bad transfer." Alexis continued in the club for a while even while he was here. Who's to say that Rosell will not let go of Eusebio after a while too?
3) " Lot's of staff have changed since Laporta left, he's taken out anyone supporting him and instead imposed less than useless idiots who act as "yes men", bowing down to Rosell."
Could you please give me some names? could you tell me about what position they held in the club? and could you tell me if some of them left with Judasdiola? (Guardiola)
You saying that some people came and some went doesn't tell me anything.
4) How he used tito? what exactly are you talking about? Tito so far has accomplished more than Pep did his last season. ( but of course, if Pep wins a lot of trophies is Pep's accomplishments but if tito flops is rosells fault).
5) "all Rosell is looking for is marketing and big names/sponsorships, he could hardly care about the footballing side of things"
What is he suppose to care for exactly? just give me somthing I can think about? hasn't he allowed coaches to sign w.e players they want? didn't he recently sign the best brazilian talent out there? hasn't he given Messi a new contract everytime he demands it? what elso do you want him to do?

 

[DonAndres]

OK back to this post as there are so many sweeping statements that are nothing but your own biased opinion -

1. What was all the club stood for under Laporta that they no longer stand for?
2. Why is Eusebio 'one of his own people'? And how is he used as a pawn?
3. Who has he gotten rid of that supported Laporta? Surely that is normal practise for new presidents to take their own men in?
4. What influence does he have over Tito and team affairs?
5. What evidence is there that he is only interested in marketable players regardless of their ability?

Boy you just love to argue don't you The questions you're asking have been answered countless times yet you still say "Nope, and that's a fact" so if you really can't make some of the most obvious observations possible then good for you and I'm not going to waste my time when I know you're just trying to steer this another way.

 

[JamDav1982]

Boy you just love to argue don't you The questions you're asking have been answered countless times yet you still say "Nope, and that's a fact" so if you really can't make some of the most obvious observations possible then good for you and I'm not going to waste my time when I know you're just trying to steer this another way.

Not they havent and have no basis.

I thought you would avoid answering them.

C

 

[Alik]

Right back at ya, Bojan

Pep, the ball boy who became player, became Captain, became coach and became a legend vs the corporate whore?...It's an easy choice, every time...One is a true culé who has kept his word and shown class & character in everything he has done

 

[Corb]

An avatar for anti-Pep members:

 

[Alik]

I share your opinion. You're just a lot better at expressing it than I am.

You seem to an endless source of Pep gifs that suit your need

 

[DonAndres]

1) No one in the spain media ever took it as a joke. People didn't take as a joke either (b.c they already know the guy) He even said it twice in different ways. He later went on to say in another interview that Messi and Neymar could never get along b.c of their egos. You keep using what the "club stood for" but those words are empty b.c you don't really specify what you are referring to, so i can't comment on that. You have to show that letting go of Cruyff was a bad idea, but so far you haven't not given reasons as to why this is the case.
2) "He appointed Eusebio to have one of his own people in control." So how exactly is this bad? don't presidents have people who trust surrounding them? I don't see anything wrong with florentino giving zidane a place in madrid b.c he trusts him and are friends. This is nothing that no other president in the world of football does. A president is suppose to have control over the club and be surrounded by people he can trust. Now , you also say that Pep "let go of his bad transfer." Alexis continued in the club for a while even while he was here. Who's to say that Rosell will not let go of Eusebio after a while too?
3) " Lot's of staff have changed since Laporta left, he's taken out anyone supporting him and instead imposed less than useless idiots who act as "yes men", bowing down to Rosell."
Could you please give me some names? could you tell me about what position they held in the club? and could you tell me if some of them left with Judasdiola? (Guardiola)
You saying that some people came and some went doesn't tell me anything.
4) How he used tito? what exactly are you talking about? Tito so far has accomplished more than Pep did his last season. ( but of course, if Pep wins a lot of trophies is Pep's accomplishments but if tito flops is rosells fault).
5) "all Rosell is looking for is marketing and big names/sponsorships, he could hardly care about the footballing side of things"
What is he suppose to care for exactly? just give me somthing I can think about? hasn't he allowed coaches to sign w.e players they want? didn't he recently sign the best brazilian talent out there? hasn't he given Messi a new contract everytime he demands it? what elso do you want him to do?

1. He said it in an interview sarcastically, anyone with a sense of humor would take it normally but some people just demand that he be completely serious for some reason. Laporta stood for the club's values in youth development, loyalty, family, and charity while Rosell is all about money.
2. Eusebio is undeserving, a disappointing manager yet given a position because he supports Rosell. But of course that's sooooo justifiable and the best thing for the club whereas Pep signing players to increase depth was horrendous.
3. Txiki, Cruyff, Pep, Enrique, Garcia, and a lot more minor ones I can't specifically name. And now Pep Guardiola, our club's champion, is Judas while you support the money-hungry whore in Rosell. Unbelievable.
4. Tito wasn't an authoritative coach, just put into the position and set to leave things the way they were with Pep and ultimately the lack of authority led to our defensive problems worsening.
5. He's supposed to care for the very legacy of the club and the ideals that have been ingrained, not just neglect it all for money and marketing. If you really don't know what that is then I don't know why you're a fan of Barcelona.

 

[Cruijffista]

An avatar for anti-Pep members:

I hope Bojan lets us keep this for the forum.

There should be a snake with the face of Pep on it though.