Pep Guardiola

Ryan_Cule

barça amor d mi alma
You keep nitpicking about the tiniest of details that everyone with a brain would be able to deduce and call it "lack of examples", and then eventually derailing the topic entirely. One thing you're not even raising up any valid points of your own, just spewing random questions to try to refute me over and over again. If common sense blinds you from seeing what I was even saying in the first place then stop steering this into whatever argument you wish to nag about. My first post literally had to do with the disrespect towards Pep, yet you keep pestering on about b/s details on how Rosell and Tito and Eusebio are perfect and "that's a fact". Once again you're the guy who just argues for the sake of arguing and it's really a waste of time to respond.

Beating a dead horse with a dead horse? No point really. If you know what I mean.
 
1. He said it in an interview sarcastically, anyone with a sense of humor would take it normally but some people just demand that he be completely serious for some reason. Laporta stood for the club's values in youth development, loyalty, family, and charity while Rosell is all about money.
2. Eusebio is undeserving, a disappointing manager yet given a position because he supports Rosell. But of course that's sooooo justifiable and the best thing for the club whereas Pep signing players to increase depth was horrendous. :lol:
3. Txiki, Cruyff, Pep, Enrique, Garcia, and a lot more minor ones I can't specifically name. And now Pep Guardiola, our club's champion, is Judas while you support the money-hungry whore in Rosell. Unbelievable.
4. Tito wasn't an authoritative coach, just put into the position and set to leave things the way they were with Pep and ultimately the lack of authority led to our defensive problems worsening.
5. He's supposed to care for the very legacy of the club and the ideals that have been ingrained, not just neglect it all for money and marketing. If you really don't know what that is then I don't know why you're a fan of Barcelona.

1) Ok, I don't believe he was being sacastic but i'll give you that. Now you have to prove that letting go of Cruyff has somehow caused Barca's decline.

" Laporta stood for the club's values in youth development, loyalty, family, and charity" The first team built by laporta wasn't exactly filled with youth. It was only after Rosell had the idea of bringing Pep as first manager that Pep started trusting Barca's youth. And you say family ? what do you mean exactly? you mean friends? Charity? Barca continues to be involved in charity...it hasn't stopped.

2) No, you are the one looking over Pep's bad decisions and later blaming Rosell for similar decisions. Eusebio is a bad manager ? he hasn't prroven himself. But of course, Rosell should have sacked Pep after Barca didn't win la liga or champions league. B.c not winning la liga or champions with Barca is not fantastic tactics or is it?
You can't prove that surrounding yourself with People who like you is wrong. All presidents have people who like and support them besides them.
3) Luis Enrique left b.c he had an offer from Roma ( but of course, it's Rosell';s fault that Luis Enrique chose Roma over barca B. Garcia left for the same reasons You haven't proved that Cruyff was essential for barca to continue being great so you bringing up is useless.
4) what exactly do you mean by an "authoritative coach." You are claiming that Rosell "just used tito" (w.e that means) but you haven't explained how this is so.
5) " He's supposed to care for the very legacy of the club and the ideals that have been ingrained, not just neglect it all for money and marketing" Can you explain what you are talking about? simply b.c you throw some words out there doesn't mean you are saying something. What legacy and ideals has Rosell thrown away?
You claim that he only cares about marketing, but marketing gives you money to buy players and pay salaries.
You have to show me how exactly he has done what you claim her has.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
You keep nitpicking about the tiniest of details that everyone with a brain would be able to deduce and call it "lack of examples", and then eventually derailing the topic entirely. One thing you're not even raising up any valid points of your own, just spewing random questions to try to refute me over and over again. If common sense blinds you from seeing what I was even saying in the first place then stop steering this into whatever argument you wish to nag about. My first post literally had to do with the disrespect towards Pep, yet you keep pestering on about b/s details on how Rosell and Tito and Eusebio are perfect and "that's a fact". Once again you're the guy who just argues for the sake of arguing and it's really a waste of time to respond.

Never once claim Tito, Rosell and Eusebio are perfect.

You on the other hand make things up like Pep leaving due to a rift with Rosell just to back up your point.

You try to blame the tactics of last season on Rosell. They clearly reverted to the tactics which were a success under Pep but what did you expect them to do? It was the best option to allow Tito to grow in the role and earn respect as manager from the players.

Did you want Tito to come along and try his own ideas immediately?

It was the correct thing to do and resulted in the league title by a record margin.

All the other things like Rossel changing the value of the club is just baseless comments and to suggest he over rides the management and directors and only signs players for advertsing is beyond a joke.

Name me one player he has done this for.
 

Doobs

The Messiah
What has he been doing though?

No one seems to provide any relevant back up to the statements that he is ruining the club!

What has he been doing though?

Pfft, Bro, Rosell is against everything that made the club what it is today. Laporta, Pep, Johan Cruyff. What else do you need to know?
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
1) Ok, I don't believe he was being sacastic but i'll give you that. Now you have to prove that letting go of Cruyff has somehow caused Barca's decline.

" Laporta stood for the club's values in youth development, loyalty, family, and charity" The first team built by laporta wasn't exactly filled with youth. It was only after Rosell had the idea of bringing Pep as first manager that Pep started trusting Barca's youth. And you say family ? what do you mean exactly? you mean friends? Charity? Barca continues to be involved in charity...it hasn't stopped.

2) No, you are the one looking over Pep's bad decisions and later blaming Rosell for similar decisions. Eusebio is a bad manager ? he hasn't prroven himself. But of course, Rosell should have sacked Pep after Barca didn't win la liga or champions league. B.c not winning la liga or champions with Barca is not fantastic tactics or is it?
You can't prove that surrounding yourself with People who like you is wrong. All presidents have people who like and support them besides them.
3) Luis Enrique left b.c he had an offer from Roma ( but of course, it's Rosell';s fault that Luis Enrique chose Roma over barca B. Garcia left for the same reasons You haven't proved that Cruyff was essential for barca to continue being great so you bringing up is useless.
4) what exactly do you mean by an "authoritative coach." You are claiming that Rosell "just used tito" (w.e that means) but you haven't explained how this is so.
5) " He's supposed to care for the very legacy of the club and the ideals that have been ingrained, not just neglect it all for money and marketing" Can you explain what you are talking about? simply b.c you throw some words out there doesn't mean you are saying something. What legacy and ideals has Rosell thrown away?
You claim that he only cares about marketing, but marketing gives you money to buy players and pay salaries.
You have to show me how exactly he has done what you claim her has.

Enough trying to grill me with points that really turn a blind eye to the obvious. I could just as easily flip this on to you. What evidence do you have that Pep is our enemy and that Rosell is suddenly some great president who is the real champion of the club and has improved us?
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Pep is da boss

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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Enough trying to grill me with points that really turn a blind eye to the obvious. I could just as easily flip this on to you. What evidence do you have that Pep is our enemy and that Rosell is suddenly some great president who is the real champion of the club and has improved us?

Who is saying he is a great president that has improved the team?

Your points against him are completely laughable and you fail big time to back any of them up and resort to making things up also.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Who is saying he is a great president that has improved the team?

Your points against him are completely laughable and you fail big time to back any of them up and resort to making things up also.

Ok please go on about how everything you don't agree with is false, laughable, or made up. Really it's your inability to make educated observations or inferences that show how close minded you're thinking about this. Not everything that's true has to be a newspaper headline or narrated into a story, but telling you any different would be "laughable". Anyway I'm not going to bother going on with your incessant need to argue or please your thirst to instigate internet battles if that's all you do.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ok please go on about how everything you don't agree with is false, laughable, or made up. Really it's your inability to make educated observations or inferences that show how close minded you're thinking about this. Not everything that's true has to be a newspaper headline or narrated into a story, but telling you any different would be "laughable". Anyway I'm not going to bother going on with your incessant need to argue or please your thirst to instigate internet battles if that's all you do.

Trying to tell me what is true from the person that told me Rosell got rid of Tixi and that Pep left due to rift with Rosell.

Look closer to home.
 

Doobs

The Messiah
These people are simply trying to portray themselves as believers in the "Nobody is bigger than the club" ideology, trying to get some moral high ground or some shit. Nothing else. They'd jizz themselves at the very thought of Pep returning.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
These people are simply trying to portray themselves as believers in the "Nobody is bigger than the club" ideology, trying to get some moral high ground or some shit. Nothing else. They'd jizz themselves at the very thought of Pep returning.

Do you think Pep is bigger than Barcelona?

I doubt anyone is interested in the moral high ground.
 

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