FinBarcelonafan
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Haaland please.
Philippe Coutinho
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Haaland please.
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
Playing him at this point is just not improving the team in any way. We should sell him in the summer for whatever 50-60m that can be salvaged for him and reinvest.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
If it is true he will be gone.
No chance the club in this position are paying another 20m.
Be fantastic if it is true.
Sailor Mars
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Hope a team like Arsenal can be baited into taking Coutinho off the team's hands.
Don't see a long term future for him here. Cannot play in the midfield, and is not suited to being a winger. Bad fit.
The board went from chasing Verratti to improve the midfield to going after Coutinho in 2017. Very different players and showed an incoherent transfer strategy.
Don't see a long term future for him here. Cannot play in the midfield, and is not suited to being a winger. Bad fit.
The board went from chasing Verratti to improve the midfield to going after Coutinho in 2017. Very different players and showed an incoherent transfer strategy.
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
Arsenal are the only team that realistically would buy him in January. They need creativity upfront and have the cash to splash 50-60m. I think Koeman likes Coutinho though, the transfer is unlikely.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
I am talking about Pep's Barca.
Let's make a simple eye test and refresh our memories.
I will post two compilation videos:
1. Peak Pep's 2010-11 Barca
2. Peak Rijkaard's 2005-06 Barca
Now, check for these things:
1. deep down, that is still the same team in it's core, with the same principles, but:
2. Pep's football is more mathematical. He is always looking for an option which has the highest % of success.
So, if your chances to score from possession are let's say 20%, and your chances to score from a single cross are 10%, he will always pick an option with 20% chances.
3. the same is with corners: in his opinion short corners where you play possession have a higher chance that crosses&header type of corners
4. the same is with long range shots. They are risky. Pep's players sometimes take it, but Pep prefers shooting from good positions inside of a box. He doesn't like risky shots. He will rather wait for the perfect opportunity.
5. one more thing which is clear on this simple eye test: look at a build up of our actions: during prime Pep, you will almost NEVER see Alves or Busi hurling a long ball from our half towards a winger.
No. What will you see?
= you will see us Tiki-Taka the opponent from Pique to Busi-Xavi-Iniesta to Messi and attackers.
So, Pep's team will rarely hoof the ball forward, skip the midfield, make a risk.
They will usually opt for "safer" approach of technically Tiki-Taking the opponents from our defense to their box.
While during Rijkaard, in this video, you will see a lot of situations where Gio or our fullbacks are hoofing long balls deep from our half or where even Ronaldinho is playing long balls, instead of playing safer-Pep's option: pass to Xavi-Iniesta, and they will TikiTaka the opponent through the middle with short passes.
So, you see, in a lot of areas, Pep turned our football into "smart" football where players should pick a solution with the lowest amount of risk of losing the ball.
And that option is usually: keep possession, wait a little longer, wait for the PERFECT opportunity, it will come.
This is why during Pep we started to play:
1. less TRUE corners (crosses into a box). Did we EVER in our history played those stupid short corners BEFORE PEP?
2. look at Rijkaard's team and the amount of crosses/headers into a box in a moment where Pep's team would keep possession and rather try to Tiki-Taka the opponent at the edge of a box.
So, Rijkaard's choice was BOTH: possession and crosses.
While Pep's choice is mostly: possession, avoid crosses.
Now, take 20-30 minutes, enjoy in good old times (videos), and make a simple eye test for these two years: 2011 and 2006.
Imo, it is quite easy to see the difference.
And how Pep elevated our possession-passing game to a GOAT level, but he neglected some other areas of the game which Rijkaard had.
That leads to: when on prime, Pep's team is unbeatable.
But when problems occur, Pep's teams literally have NO PLAN B since he has built teams to play only in one way.
Vides, 2010/11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsXH6n3etvI
2005/06:
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Right, it's easily disprovable but that goes for the majority of things he argues for. Like I said he doesn't care about football, he cares about arguing and being a contrarian and football just happens to be the vehicle he chose to ride for that. Should be mostly ignored or at the very least not taken seriously.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
BBZ you are talking about Peps Barca but then make out Pep is predictable and has never changed so either way contradicting yourself.
Are you now saying Pep has developed his style and not the same as that Barca?
'Barca never crossed under Pep'.... must have all imagined Messi scoring header in CL final 2009 and Puyol scoring header in 6-2 win that season in Bernabeu.
'Barca never took long range shots'... Could have swore that same season Toure scored from 25 yds in Cop final that season.
That is just some of the biggest games from that one season. Plenty more examples.
Are you now saying Pep has developed his style and not the same as that Barca?
'Barca never crossed under Pep'.... must have all imagined Messi scoring header in CL final 2009 and Puyol scoring header in 6-2 win that season in Bernabeu.
'Barca never took long range shots'... Could have swore that same season Toure scored from 25 yds in Cop final that season.
That is just some of the biggest games from that one season. Plenty more examples.
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Messi983
Senior Member
They'll probably get Isco for 15-20m instead.
Hope that they do.
Whenever he's on the pitch he looks more miserable than Messi looked at the start of the year. I get that Barcelona was probably a dream move that hasn't worked out at all, and that sucks, but jesus christ have some fighting mentality. When he tried to dribble past players yesterday (after they'd been chasing our players all game) he couldn't even be quicker than them. Can't understand how bbz can like this guy when he's a schoolboy, slow, weak AND has a pathetic mentality to go with it. The embodiment of everything he should dislike in a player.
Messigician
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Bbz took the L on Trincao. 0 chance he takes another L on Coutinho dawgs
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