Marshall D Teach
Well-known member
Team needs a major overhaul. Anfield finished them.
Setien's not the guy to do it, and Valverde certainly wasn't.
Setien's not the guy to do it, and Valverde certainly wasn't.
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jairzinho
Senior Member
The way many are reacting here you would think we just lost with Pep's Barca or Lucho's MSN.
This team has been in a free fall since last season's train wreck ending under Valverde.
And what's worse is nothing much has changed from now till then.
Valverde is gone but the core of last seasons team is still here. That's the MAIN problem.
The teams needs a big shakeup. It didn't happen last summer so we're going to pay for it now.
All we did was just paper over the cracks with Frenkie and bad fit Greizmann.
You have to be deluded to expect QS or anyone to come in here and clean this mess in 2 months.
Last summer we should have fired Valverde and started a new project.
This team has been in a free fall since last season's train wreck ending under Valverde.
And what's worse is nothing much has changed from now till then.
Valverde is gone but the core of last seasons team is still here. That's the MAIN problem.
The teams needs a big shakeup. It didn't happen last summer so we're going to pay for it now.
All we did was just paper over the cracks with Frenkie and bad fit Greizmann.
You have to be deluded to expect QS or anyone to come in here and clean this mess in 2 months.
Last summer we should have fired Valverde and started a new project.
jairzinho
Senior Member
You can feel free to throw stones at what i'm saying but as far as i'm concerned QS is doing the best that he could with this bunch.
Whether he is the right person to take this team forward is another debate but you can't deny this team was done after back to back meltdowns.
Until something is done, It's only downhill from here, potentially.
I'm actually surprised that we're just one point off Madrid at this stage, especially with all the SHIT planning, injuries and distractions off the field.
Whether he is the right person to take this team forward is another debate but you can't deny this team was done after back to back meltdowns.
Until something is done, It's only downhill from here, potentially.
I'm actually surprised that we're just one point off Madrid at this stage, especially with all the SHIT planning, injuries and distractions off the field.
FCBfan22
Senior Member
It's simple... Because RM is shit too. But they are at least physicaly prepared to play 90 minutes.
If this current Barca faced let's say Mou's RM, the league would be done and dusted in 3 months.
Madrid had the same exact physical meltdown as us vs City. We should have made our chances counted in the first half, thats football.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Imo, this team is dead since 2013.
The problem is that we had one good year in 2015 and people thought that we were back.
And then, due to that season, we kept Amigos for 5 years too long and didn't rebuild earlier.
If you remove 2015, our play, level of fitness, pace, movement, pressing, motivation is going downhill since 2013:
2013: Bayern 0:4
2014: Atletico 0:1
2016: Atletico 0:2
2017: Psg 0:4, Juve 0:3
2018: Roma 0:3
2019: Liverpool 0:4
When you remove 2015, we haven't scored a goal in key CL matches away since Pep's days.
And our goal difference in key AWAY CL matches mentioned above is 0:21.
Quite an astonishing achievement.
Busi played in all these matches.
Alba also.
Iniesta in lots of them.
Messi was sulking in majority of them.
Pique, the same.
Rakitic, Suarez, Roberto in majority of them.
Mats is usually a frosty in these matches.
More or less=we have the same team losing matches OVER and OVER.
And we are losing those matches in exactly the same fashion since 2012:
We are outrun by any European team.
We concede from corners for fun.
And we can't score against anyone, as if any half decent European team knows how to stop us in attack.
I used to say the same even during Lucho.
We were dead even back then, but Lucho managed to add a final bits of energy to our dying team.
And then Barto and fans got fooled and we kept that dying team for 4-5 years after 2015'.
They even tried to reunite dying Neymar with this dying team...
Richard.H
Senior Member
[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] you are massively underestimating how stacked that 14-15 team was. We had Pedro and Xavi coming off the bench, Neymar and Suarez peaking at just the right time, and Raki covering all the empty spaces left by Messi on that right side. Also an actual RB in Dani alves and an LB in Alba playing well. Every top team needs fullbacks that can attack and defend for 90 mins, which we did have that season.
wisconsincule
Senior Member
I hope this is not true. Entitled attitudes will result in zero trophies.
Clean house and start over. As Ernesto would say. It is what it is.
UEFA_Barça_Chris
o Fenômeno
Sarabia definitely doesn’t kiss anybody’s ass. Blow to the egos of the amigos I assume
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
We would need this sort of attitude from everyone in the organization. Maybe then we could do better.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
The dressing room needs to fuck off. The slightest thing seems to upset these pussies. Instead if totally destroying their legacies they should leave with some pride.
Ridiculous.
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