Quique Setien

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Sell Suarez, Busquets, Pique, Raki and Vidal

Bring in youngsters instead FDJ, Puig, Pedri, Alena and one senior MF like Pjanic

Hire a madman coach who dosn't take shit from anyone for a year contract like Marcelo Bielsa to bring back the intensity/workrate and known to work well with the young generation.

In 2021-2022 hire Xavi.

Someone please fucking tell me what Xavi will do? We can't afford any big players. La Masia is not producing any good players forget great ones. Xavi is too obsessed with possession. He would be Setien 2.0. He may have more authority and more fire but he doesn't have the tools or basic material to carry out a revolution.
We are fucked for the next five years minimum.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Xavi might be able to turn it around, but its going to be a multi-season project. Will people be patient with him?
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
We should have got someone like Allegri to manage this last hurrah of the amigos. Italian coaches know how to work with older players and get the best out of them. Fact is we can't play sexy football anyway so just get the result and phase the amigos out.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
This forum have such a strange obsession with the likes of Allegri and Mourinho sometimes, two managers who will struggle to get hired by top teams. If you want Barca to reach a point of no return for more than half a decade you can hire them.
 

Hardy

Senior Member
Seti?n: "I'm happy with many things that we have improved in the time I have been here, but it wasn't enough to win La Liga. We've worked conscientiously, but this is sport and things do not always go as you want them to go."

:crbust:
 

fergus90

Senior Member
Someone please fucking tell me what Xavi will do? We can't afford any big players. La Masia is not producing any good players forget great ones. Xavi is too obsessed with possession. He would be Setien 2.0. He may have more authority and more fire but he doesn't have the tools or basic material to carry out a revolution.
We are fucked for the next five years minimum.

Come with fresh ideas, knows Barca inside and out is extremely passionate about the club and knows it's completely on it's arse currently. Has said countless times that he wants full control over sporting decisions, so you know he isn't gonna just be a gatekeeper, playing the same old players, expecting the same old results. Has worked under Guardiola, Van Gaal, Rijkaard, Del Bosque and Aragones so must've learnt a variety of things from these decorated coaches.

He was the metronome of a very successful Barca and Spain team, so hopefully his experience and ability as an elite midfielder could be used to coach players to improve their own game (something we've lacked for a while). Perhaps it's time to sway the thinking of needing to break the bank for 'big' players. Plus it's impossible to say we are fucked for 5 years, football changes too fast for that kind of guarantee.
 
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M3ls

Well-known member
Another midtable manager that got hired while Poch was there for the taking. Atleast Barca had 75 percent possession. Wonder who is next ?

Even since I have seen this guys use FDJ as a CAM for 2 or 3 games in a row alarm bells started ringing.

What do you want?????


Frankie shit in the Busquets position in the 4-3-3 system.

Ajax had a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 scheme.

We do not play this scheme.

You should not blame Setien, but the management of the club who bought a player who does not fit 3 - 4 - 3, 4 - 3 - 3.

And these are our main schemes.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Xavi from like DonAK said wants to completely overhaul the Sporting Department to where he see fits.

That alone could make a huge difference assuming if he actually can and make it work. I'm not sure how he would fair as a coach but he will no doubt get a lot more respect than some average Mid-table coach due to his status when he was at Barcelona.

I highly doubt guys like Messi, Busi, Suarez etc even have the balls to even go against him.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
What do you want?????


Frankie shit in the Busquets position in the 4-3-3 system.

Ajax had a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 scheme.

We do not play this scheme.

You should not blame Setien, but the management of the club who bought a player who does not fit 3 - 4 - 3, 4 - 3 - 3.

And these are our main schemes.

How can you say Fdj is shit in a 4-3-3 as a CDM when Setien never tried it with his Busquets fetish. This team is getting overrun when they don't have the ball and Busquets is one of the problems , add another snail to midfield and the problems become even bigger.

But what I ultimately want is more stale possession. 75 percent isn't enough for a club like Barca. Gime that sweet 84% ball possession with 2 shots on target and one OG.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Next season we will probably see a trio of FDJ-Busi-Pjanic.

It won't be great to watch either as the only one in that trio who would benefit is Busi as he's going to play in his prefered spot. Pjanic at one time was an attacking Mid/CM but I'm not certain if he would still be effective as he once was at Roma.

I would take a gamble on a FDJ-Pjanic Double pivot but that requires to have a forward line that has enough work rate to help out both of them. FDJ I have no issue but Pjanic is a guy that will need some help to cover ground.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
How can you say Fdj is shit in a 4-3-3 as a CDM when Setien never tried it with his Busquets fetish. This team is getting overrun when they don't have the ball and Busquets is one of the problems , add another snail to midfield and the problems become even bigger.

But what I ultimately want is more stale possession. 75 percent isn't enough for a club like Barca. Gime that sweet 84% ball possession with 2 shots on target and one OG.

Valverde used him in this position.

Also, ask Ten Hag about it.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
https://tribuna.com/en/fcbarcelona/...lains-how-he-brought-the-best-out-of-de-jong/


“The quality of your players decide how you will play, and with what system. We had to find a way to make Frenkie function in the best possible way,” ten Hag said. “You saw his incredible talent, but where do we have to use him to get the best out of him and his talent?

“Eventually I decided to play with two ‘number 6’ players on the pitch. Once I did this you saw how much better he became on the pitch, and how much better he made the whole team play and especially the attackers.”


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This, of course, poses a sort of a problem for Barcelona and Ernesto Valverde, as the Catalans traditionally play with a sole holding midfielder, Sergio Busquets. Will the Basque specialist be willing to adjust his system to utilize Frenkie's talent?
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
If we had prime Busquets as CDM I would perfectly understand playing Fdj out of position but that's clearly not the case. Busquets is past it especially defensively. Let Fdj play as the sole CDM and see how it goes , because relying on Busquets in that position is clearly not the solution.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
This forum have such a strange obsession with the likes of Allegri and Mourinho sometimes, two managers who will struggle to get hired by top teams. If you want Barca to reach a point of no return for more than half a decade you can hire them.

tbf Allegri is perfect for this "team" as he is the kind of coach who can win us the league with couple of changes, he is a rich man EV.
But he isn't what the "club" need tbh, as we need more rebuilding and youth approach

Only problem is language barrier, I know you hate to bring this point but coaches nowadays have to know how to handle and win the players before being tactically sound. Communication is essential with players.
 

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