yusuf
Yusuf Islam
seriously possible....but i think we are good enough to win without messi if everybody else stays healthy
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seriously possible....but i think we are good enough to win without messi if everybody else stays healthy
Beast
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There is no luck involved Ducky , Real & Barca are always been a cat & mouse game..
sometimes they dominate , sometimes we dominate , occasionally some team come out and take us both out .
They are better than us now and we will work hard to stop them , this year /next year .. you never know but our through out our history together it's been a reoccurring theme and we will do that eventually
we will always keep pushing them till they break and they will do the same for us when that happen .
There ^^^ i summed up my 26 years since i followed Real
Beast
The Observer
impossible to tell Yusuf
4 -5 years domination in the 80's followed by similar case for you with the dream team
than you & us with our domination for Europe (and your decline ) and galactico era than dinho era 2 league trophies and a cl for you than us for 2 years than you for 2 years till now ..
i'd say you have a slight advantage till now and for now
4 -5 years domination in the 80's followed by similar case for you with the dream team
than you & us with our domination for Europe (and your decline ) and galactico era than dinho era 2 league trophies and a cl for you than us for 2 years than you for 2 years till now ..
i'd say you have a slight advantage till now and for now
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Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
In the last 20 years Barcelona have been more successful but in the past 30 years it has been Madrid.
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
We consider 79/80 from the decade before so it does not count, right?
Real Madrid:
Spanish Championship: 1985–86, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1989–90, 1994–95, 1996–97, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
CL: 1997–98, 1999–2000, 2001–02
Copa del Gay: 1981–82, 1988–89, 1992–93
Spanish Super Cup: 1988, 1989*, 1990, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2003, 2008
UEFA Cup: 1984–85, 1985–86
Barcelona:
Spanish Championship: 1984–85, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1997–98, 1998–99, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10
CL: 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09
Copa del Rey: 1980–81, 1982–83, 1987–88, 1989–90, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2008–09
Spanish Super Cup: 1983, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
UEFA Cup: 1981–82, 1988–89, 1996–97
Barcelona are slightly more successful than Real Madrid in terms of the domestic cup and UEFA Cup. Can't be arsed with listing the rest, I am sure they will continue on the same tangent. No longer is Madrid the team of Spain, Barcelona are on par in every single way except finances and even then, it is nothing that will really cripple them.
This year is not the title breaker, this year is that starts with the next decade, the next 10 years. The past 30 years have ended with similar success for both clubs, Madrid's wins have been a little more spread out that Barcelona who when they formed a team was formidable.
The difference between Madrid and Barcelona might be perhaps is that when Madrid are on the chase, they never fall way behind or stay behind for a long time. Barcelona tends to drop the ball and when they do it takes a while but even then Barcelona have been runners up 8 times vs Madrid's 10. Madrid's team from the late 80s made the semi finals of the CL 3 times in a row always losing, had they won one or two they could have surpassed Barcelona, but it is what it is.
What is happening now falls just in line with the over all cycle in Spain, nothing out of the blue. It is a cycle and nothing in the world can stop it. Madrid is in the obsessive stage right now just like Barcelona when they were chasing.
There is plenty of talk from younger fans on here that becomes tedious to read which projects to me that they lack the understanding of what it means to both clubs to do whatever it takes to rob their rivals of their glory. Madrid's Galactico policy is nothing more than a way in which it has responded to Barcelona's success. Matter of fact remains that which ever method Madrid might have used, Barcelona these days are simply unplayable but a good chase will always be the least of which we could do.
Real Madrid:
Spanish Championship: 1985–86, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89, 1989–90, 1994–95, 1996–97, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08
CL: 1997–98, 1999–2000, 2001–02
Copa del Gay: 1981–82, 1988–89, 1992–93
Spanish Super Cup: 1988, 1989*, 1990, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2003, 2008
UEFA Cup: 1984–85, 1985–86
Barcelona:
Spanish Championship: 1984–85, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1997–98, 1998–99, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10
CL: 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09
Copa del Rey: 1980–81, 1982–83, 1987–88, 1989–90, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2008–09
Spanish Super Cup: 1983, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
UEFA Cup: 1981–82, 1988–89, 1996–97
Barcelona are slightly more successful than Real Madrid in terms of the domestic cup and UEFA Cup. Can't be arsed with listing the rest, I am sure they will continue on the same tangent. No longer is Madrid the team of Spain, Barcelona are on par in every single way except finances and even then, it is nothing that will really cripple them.
This year is not the title breaker, this year is that starts with the next decade, the next 10 years. The past 30 years have ended with similar success for both clubs, Madrid's wins have been a little more spread out that Barcelona who when they formed a team was formidable.
The difference between Madrid and Barcelona might be perhaps is that when Madrid are on the chase, they never fall way behind or stay behind for a long time. Barcelona tends to drop the ball and when they do it takes a while but even then Barcelona have been runners up 8 times vs Madrid's 10. Madrid's team from the late 80s made the semi finals of the CL 3 times in a row always losing, had they won one or two they could have surpassed Barcelona, but it is what it is.
What is happening now falls just in line with the over all cycle in Spain, nothing out of the blue. It is a cycle and nothing in the world can stop it. Madrid is in the obsessive stage right now just like Barcelona when they were chasing.
There is plenty of talk from younger fans on here that becomes tedious to read which projects to me that they lack the understanding of what it means to both clubs to do whatever it takes to rob their rivals of their glory. Madrid's Galactico policy is nothing more than a way in which it has responded to Barcelona's success. Matter of fact remains that which ever method Madrid might have used, Barcelona these days are simply unplayable but a good chase will always be the least of which we could do.
yusuf
Yusuf Islam
And end weak
lol....nobodies knows wat will happen in 5 years time but if our youth team continue to produce like it has it will be tough unless madrid get its act together....not to mention busi will still be there by then
so u have no hope 
Richard.H
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While I can be a bit pessimistic at times, I think the max amount of La Liga titles that Pep can win in a row with this team is 4. After four, I believe there may be way too much problems with getting the players motivated enough to fight off RM, who will capitalize on every mistake by that time. I hope I'm wrong though and I hope Pep can surpass the record set by Kruyff's (SP?) Dream Team.
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
You never know, this season is far from over. Players talk a lot of shit, so you never know who moves (including Pep), and you never knows who gets injured long time either. You also don't know how much this team is reliant on Xavi because while his absence for a week or two showed no signs of Barcelona being frail, on the long run things are different. He might still be majestic at 35, who the hell knows? All it takes for Madrid right now is to keep this team the way it is for 2 more years and the players celebrate success (otherwise they are going to leave). You never know who comes through our ranks, you never know who suddenly shines.
Barcelona are moving in the right direction, there is absolutely no doubt about that. Real Madrid aren't bad at all either, a Classico win is what eludes us and to get past the round of 16.
I hate CL wins before a league win because it does not suggest any type of consistency to win again but being second place with 96 points or so, a CL win will change things for sure.
Barcelona are moving in the right direction, there is absolutely no doubt about that. Real Madrid aren't bad at all either, a Classico win is what eludes us and to get past the round of 16.
I hate CL wins before a league win because it does not suggest any type of consistency to win again but being second place with 96 points or so, a CL win will change things for sure.
Beast
The Observer
Correction needed here, Galactico policy came @ a period of Madrid domination and Barca 5 year decline , it was in no way a response but an upgrade to the two times CL winning team.
It will change the fortunes and the mentality of the team completely .. this would be the butterfly effect
Barca's Achilles heal IMO are Xavi-Puyol.. not Messi
those 2 are getting old and time is not on their side . they are the linchpin of the team.. the moment they are out of the picture the mental strength will go down .
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