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Gnegneri

immaculately conceived
Look, it's Mourinho. If you don't give a coach like that what he wants, why would he even stay.

Personally, I would rather bail out instead of spending all your effort while not getting what you want ... only to end second versus this Barcelona. Meta said it already to me, look at how Mourinho looks. It's worse than Pep after 2.5 years. I would leave and say that Real is unworkable, rather than waste my time in proving that it is. It's not a Mourinho problem as such, it's just Real is a hard club to get control, for anyone.

But I'm a lazy and easy going twat, so that explains.
 

Beast

The Observer
What? I am not fully awake, are you being sarcastic?
Front page expose on AS atm

Pep has broken him.

nope hardly, Valdano...the man behind the throne

Um. Isn't As supposed to be the more...sane..of the pro-Madrid sport dailies? Why're they coming out with a story like this? Is Mourinho really that unpopular with (management/players/fans)?

yep they are and me bet is the leak is made by jose and jorge mendez to put pressure on valdano

Valdano and him hate each other, add that to the fact that he isn't allowed to do what he wants and that he can't beat this Barca team = Run Away.

The whole of La Liga hates him, all the managers, refs and the authorities. Maybe he'll move to West Ham and Madrid will get Martin O'Neill?
he never cared, its an internal matter
coach or football manager?
 

Nándor

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This was obvious...Mourinho is too much alpha-male to truely accept, that the club is bigger than him. I didn't believed him in the first place, when he said he would be aware that the club is bigger than him and that he could accept working with/under others, like Valdano. After only half a season he's allready crying like a baby whos lollipop you stole.

Bye bye then...i couldn't care less. Never regarded him as the right man to plan with long term, which is exactly what Pérez & Valdano are currently doing. Instead of splashing out another shitload of cash now, they plan with Castilla and aim towards getting their long-term targets this summer (Llorente, J. Martínez, Jesús Navas, Gareth Bale etc...), plus the recall of Parejo. That'll cost around the usual 80m € transfer budget + the money made with sales.
 

dalitis8

Banned
One more draw in the league, and an exit from the CL to Lyon or maybe later to some Man U or Chelski or Inter...and Mou is as goos as gone.

That's a lot of ifs right there, but I am only saying...
 

Nándor

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yep they are and me bet is the leak is made by jose and jorge mendez to put pressure on valdano

As well as i'm not surprised by this news, i wouldn't be surprised if Cristiano Ronaldo would be next. Or even leave as well within this or summer or the next.

Something like Mourinho convincing him he will not be winning anything at Madrid without him and as long as Pérez & Valdano remain at the club.
 

ricknattery

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I think Mou is trying to give the final ultimatum to Florentino regarding the 9 he is asking for since August, are you listening to me or are you listening to Valdano
 

Beast

The Observer
Selling CR to City for example ?
don't get ahead of yourself people , like Rick said it's probably an ultimatum , leaked by Jose people in response to Valdano slamming him publicly
taking into consideration , Jose said today regarding Valdano words"he is too old to be sent messages through the press " with a clear reference to Jorge words after Almeria
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Ever since Valdano has been here he has been a pain the ass. He better shut the fuck up and let the man do his job but his criticism and response against the coach is nothing constructive. What is the point of trying to out smart the manager?

Mourinho barks a lot, but that is who they hired, trying to out do him is silly and destructive. There is a point where your history with the club becomes nothing more of an inconvenience. Chasing away the world's top coach is just unnecessary especially that this stint could be worse than the previous one where we went 4 years without winning nothing.

Valdano just has sand in his vagina and is making personal differences come between him and Mourinho at the expense of the club. Branca and Mourinho never said a word against each other in public and they won the league twice and the CL. Maybe Valdano should learn to just shut the fuck up, because that is not something he is doing with Mourinho only but has been a habit of his ever since he has been appointed.
 

Beast

The Observer
This was obvious...Mourinho is too much alpha-male to truely accept, that the club is bigger than him. I didn't believed him in the first place, when he said he would be aware that the club is bigger than him and that he could accept working with/under others, like Valdano. After only half a season he's allready crying like a baby whos lollipop you stole.

Bye bye then...i couldn't care less. Never regarded him as the right man to plan with long term, which is exactly what Pérez & Valdano are currently doing. Instead of splashing out another shitload of cash now, they plan with Castilla and aim towards getting their long-term targets this summer (Llorente, J. Martínez, Jesús Navas, Gareth Bale etc...), plus the recall of Parejo. That'll cost around the usual 80m € transfer budget + the money made with sales.

I disagree , tactically and mentally Jose is the man for the club...
just because some decisions are not popular or agreeable doesn't take away his ability , he needs to stay for two years at least .
that's the proper call

Ever since Valdano has been here he has been a pain the ass. He better shut the fuck up and let the man do his job but his criticism and response against the coach is nothing constructive. What is the point of trying to out smart the manager?

Mourinho barks a lot, but that is who they hired, trying to out do him is silly and destructive. There is a point where your history with the club becomes nothing more of an inconvenience. Chasing away the world's top coach is just unnecessary especially that this stint could be worse than the previous one where we went 4 years without winning nothing.

Valdano just has sand in his vagina and is making personal differences come between him and Mourinho at the expense of the club. Branca and Mourinho never said a word against each other in public and they won the league twice and the CL. Maybe Valdano should learn to just shut the fuck up, because that is not something he is doing with Mourinho only but has been a habit of his ever since he has been appointed.

No no no . don't you dare go into that area...
Jorge has done a lot to the club as a player , manager , director... you don't put this man vs Jose in anything and i do mean anything.
this Spain and we are not Inter.. he knew he is working under Jorge from day one and he knew this is not England.
yes the club made a mistake with Benzema but that doesn't mean to screw yourself to prove a point .
and i'm sorry but Branca isn't suitable to clean Jorge shoes in anything.. this is the man the broke the dream team era.
This is a club bigger than Jose .. yes we will get the targets but in the right time and the targets which suit us not him
did you really want to see Hugo Almeida as the number 9 ? a player who can't even play in the CL ??

don't go near Jorge Raed.. just don't buddy
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Haha, I knew you'd get so upset about me giving Valdano a shake but even he isn't bigger than the club. Not once did I say that Mourinho is bigger than Valdano or more important or he is the king of Madrid. Fact is, Valdano's behavior has been below acceptable. I am not defending Mourinho here but he is bringing a project with him and its on the verge of prospering no need to have Valdano responding to Mourinho and criticizing him to add more pressure.
 

Beast

The Observer
He is criticizing the whining every news conference about the number 9 , than he leave his number 9 on the bench and Morata to Castilla .
 

ricknattery

New member
Ever since Valdano has been here he has been a pain the ass. He better shut the fuck up and let the man do his job but his criticism and response against the coach is nothing constructive. What is the point of trying to out smart the manager?

Mourinho barks a lot, but that is who they hired, trying to out do him is silly and destructive. There is a point where your history with the club becomes nothing more of an inconvenience. Chasing away the world's top coach is just unnecessary especially that this stint could be worse than the previous one where we went 4 years without winning nothing.

Valdano just has sand in his vagina and is making personal differences come between him and Mourinho at the expense of the club. Branca and Mourinho never said a word against each other in public and they won the league twice and the CL. Maybe Valdano should learn to just shut the fuck up, because that is not something he is doing with Mourinho only but has been a habit of his ever since he has been appointed.

Florentino knows Mourinho is his last chance at RM, that's why he hired him even though he doesn't have the profile that matches with Florentino's desire. He is always talking about the values of the club, about how great RM is, how honorable, how respectful with everyone they are. Still he hired mourinho cos' anywhere he coached he won titles, but Florentino likes to be the focus, likes to be the starring character in everything, he interferes in signings and stuff that are not of his concern. Mourinho is similar he wants all of the lights upon him, he wants total control. I don't see how that can work for RM, if they don't crash now, they will do it eventually. Florentino already stated that Valdano is above Mou in his eyes when Mou was asking for Valdano to complain about refs along with him.

The cancer of RM is Florentino Perez, 8 years in the club and have just won a CL and 2 ligas and to what expense? millions and millions of euros, no long-term projects, not estability. He fired Del Bosque for no apparent reason, and he continues to interfere with the coach's work. The man is a genius in finances but knows nothing about football. Also, it's not just football where Florentino is failing, he is failing in basically every other sport where Real Madrid has a team

It'll be interesting to see what happens with RM the next weeks and months
 
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