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Maria: You're letting yourself getting trolled far too easily.
Maria: You're letting yourself getting trolled far too easily.
i played down claiming you are the best in the world when you come short with a large number of points in the league
You are once again talking out of your arse. Paul Scholes didn't play in that game back in 2003 in OT and no United fan considers that team as their best under Ferguson. It's either the 99 or the 2008 treble winning team, which every United fan will confirm to you. The latter with Rio, Vidic, Evra at their peaks, van der Sar in goal and Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez upfront. A CL winning team with a Ballon d'Or winner in it that made it to another CL final right after winning it the year before.
The goals that Ronaldo scored in 2003 in OT were soft and any other keeper than Barthez wouldn't have conceded 3. Nothing to do with "terrorising United's defense". Aggregate score was 6-5. You conceded 4 against this team within 90 minutes:
Barthez
Wes Brown
Rio Ferdinand
O'Shea
Silvestre
Nicky Butt
Giggs
Keane
Veron
Solskjaer
Ruud
You might also want to hear what SAF said about Pep's Barcelona:
Oh, and yes, Rooney is far superior to Ruud. He's not only United's 5th best goal scorer already with 26 (10 goals and he'll surpass George Best) but he's also got much more to his overall game than Ruud, the fox in the box. How is that even a discussion?
And I repeat it again: Iniesta played with an injury. He sacrificed a whole season afterwards in 2010. Henry wasn't fit either (he played his last game before the CL final 1 month prior, he wasn't match fit by any stretch of imagination). And Abidal and Alves were suspended. That's how we made a fool out of Ferguson's arguably best team in a CL final.
Iniesta:
You are once again talking out of your arse. Paul Scholes didn't play in that game back in 2003 in OT and no United fan considers that team as their best under Ferguson. It's either the 99 or the 2008 treble winning team, which every United fan will confirm to you. The latter with Rio, Vidic, Evra at their peaks, van der Sar in goal and Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez upfront. A CL winning team with a Ballon d'Or winner in it that made it to another CL final right after winning it the year before.
The goals that Ronaldo scored in 2003 in OT were soft and any other keeper than Barthez wouldn't have conceded 3. Nothing to do with "terrorising United's defense". Aggregate score was 6-5. You conceded 4 against this team within 90 minutes:
Barthez
Wes Brown
Rio Ferdinand
O'Shea
Silvestre
Nicky Butt
Giggs
Keane
Veron
Solskjaer
Ruud
You might also want to hear what SAF said about Pep's Barcelona:
Oh, and yes, Rooney is far superior to Ruud. He's not only United's 5th best goal scorer already with 26 (10 goals and he'll surpass George Best) but he's also got much more to his overall game than Ruud, the fox in the box. How is that even a discussion?
And I repeat it again: Iniesta played with an injury. He sacrificed a whole season afterwards in 2010. Henry wasn't fit either (he played his last game before the CL final 1 month prior, he wasn't match fit by any stretch of imagination). And Abidal and Alves were suspended. That's how we made a fool out of Ferguson's arguably best team in a CL final.
Iniesta:
We are the best team in the world because we won the last liga, CL, and this season spain supercup, european supercup, club worldcup. We are obviously better than RM because we always win vs RM, only this season in spain supercup, la liga and some days ago in spain cup.
We are not only still the best team in the world, but worldwide experts are discussing that maybe we are the best team ever: not because we won almost all, but mainly because of the style we won: barca style, cantera+class+talent above tactics+schemes+physical (RM).
And remember that spain won the WC thanks barca players=barca style. The whole world will remember (it is not easy to digest, be strong) that the WC has been won by barca cantera players..oh yes !!! that hurts the pride of rm fans
Bingo.
You are totally right about Man U.
It is funny how the Galácticos are being overrated by some for nostalgic reasons or to downplay this current majestic FCB. We are not talking about individuals now but the team as a unit. If some has not realized this yet then the latter is far more important just ask the Galácticos team or the FCB team from 2006-2008 that had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Messi, Deco, Xavi, Iniesta, Yaya, Zambrotta, Thuram, Puyol, Márquez etc.
Apart from that both Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo had their best days in FCB and Juve respectively.
At the end of the day Galácticos were only able to win 2 league titles and 1 CL in 6 years (2000-2006). We won the same amount of titles in two years (2004-2006)
I challenge anyone to name such a successful and well-oiled machine as Pep's FCB that has won 13 out of 16 possible titles in 3,5 years (those 3 titles that were "lost" was the Copa del Rey final last season, the CL-semifinal against Inter in the 2009-2010 season and the Copa Del Rey exit to Sevilla in the same season (1/16) and dominated the games as much as this current FCB has for 3,5 years now.
The 2008-2011 Barca team would beat the 2000-2003 Real team imo.
Out of that galactico team only Casillas would get into that Barca team. Would Figo? no would Makelele? no Would Zidane? no Would Raul? no because Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta and Messi are all superior.
You can't play Carlos and Alves in the same team it has to be either/or because playing both would upset the balance.
Yes the current one has more "trophies " but i'd take our trophies when the competition was a lot better over the current compartive weakness
If you are discussing an era than you have to include the entire Del Bosque era not just the ones with Zidane .. cause Pep didn't bring Xavi-Puyol-Valdes-Iniesta Messi..etc they were there and won before him
and same applies for Salgado,Roberto Carlos Hierro,Raul,Morientes ..etc
And we are discussing the hypothetical scenario of those two teams playing each other at their best
Yes the current one has more "trophies " but i'd take our trophies when the competition was a lot better over the current compartive weakness
Sorry but trophies aren't just trophies...if that was the case...Rangers > Barca