Real Madrid (old thread)

[Raed]

When you do us a favour, make sure it is complete. When you tell us she is hotter than VDVs, that is half the favor, post the damn picture Ward!

 

[Esteve]

I don't get why you're being so narrow-minded - about 3 times now I've said that Eto'o was conditionally non-transferrable, and when he would have been transferrable the result wouldn't have satisfied Barca.

Yes I was wrong because I took the 3 big EPL teams + City out of the frame, but anyway there's no proof that any of Manu, Chelsea and Arsenal would want Eto'o in the first place. And even if I was wrong about the wage thing, it doesn't matter because my overall point stands. With the money we gain, we couldn't afford Ibra or Villa, the only 2 strikers who meet our needs.

Once again quoting the "second side" of your comment, I DID NOT say Eto'o's value was zero. Eto'o's value to INTER was 20M because they NEEDED him, and Eto'o also had a purely cash value to City, but since no other team would buy him (as I honestly don't think the big 3 from the EPL would get him) then his value would indeed be zero, as we would not sell him and he would go on a free, thus we would gain ZERO from him as an asset. I don't get why this is so hard to understand:
Eto'o value:
Inter - 20M (solely in Ibra deal)
City - 35M (solely cash)
Other clubs - 0M (solely pick up on free transfer next year)

Why is that so hard to understand? You seem an intelligent guy.

And as for the "of course they will sell him for 70M" - that is what I don't really agree with. Because what other striker is out there on the market, worth between 0 and 70M, who could come in and fill Mourinho's needs? Nobody aside from Eto'o.





1. Yes Beast, but who? Who could we buy who would instantly fit? I am 100% positive that Villa wouldn't be sold no matter what. And Ibra is a better purchase than Forlán in the long-term. So NO MATTER the cash, Ibra is virtually our only solution. If we sell Eto'o to City we end up having no experienced striker to play in CF (unless Henry plays there, in which our squad looks insanely thin) for a year, until we buy Ibra for 60-70M cash, as a new replacement becomes available for him and Inter are willing to sell OUTSIDE of a player exchange deal.

2. I never ever heard Inter going on about a cash deal, there were ALWAYS talks about Eto'o, and I sincerely don't believe that they would sell without lining up a replacement in the form of Eto'o.

3. Nope, just cause clubs can afford the TRANSFER FEE they couldn't afford the wages. I used to think that Eto'o was intending to play out his contract with Barca so that he can leave to Mallorca on a free, and Mallorca can still give him higher wages. It's not a question of transfer fee. Eto'o demands so much that only a select few can offer to place him within the salary cap.

4. I don't get it Beast, what are you talking about denial? I have said twice already that Txiki messed up, that this deal was a ripoff for Barca...
At the same time, I am saying that this was the only physical possibility for the deal to happen.
Also I don't entirely disapprove of what happened because I wanted to get rid of Eto'o, for ages now.
I just came onto here to explain why Eto'o's value would be zero without Inter's deal and perhaps, now that you mention, City's cash. I started out saying it was conditional. I think that you are right to criticise the deal, because Barca were ripped off. Well if Ibra proves himself then the good old Pérez remarks about never paying too much money for a great player (+ shirt sales) will stand true. However, clearly the saga that Madrid has gone through this summer with the massive spending has made you super defensive about these kinds of discussions, and you're unfairly dismissing the notion that while we may disapprove of the sums, the deal sort of needed this to happen.

Don't bother, man. He's one of those people who can't accept being wrong. Next I'll be expected to believe that Ibra will be 37 at some point next season.

 

[G.J]

obviously not correct, you would have had him for another season, I'd think about 30 goals would be worth more than 0 euro.

thats where his salary comes in. His value is still 0.

 

[blueduck]

I actually agree with the madridstas here (I think).

Eto'o wasn't worth nothing when you used him as part of the deal for Ibra.

Therefore you didn't just pay 46 million, you paid at least 20 million more.

 

[Abaddon]

When you do us a favour, make sure it is complete. When you tell us she is hotter than VDVs, that is half the favor, post the damn picture Ward!

good point Raed, my bad.

for those who want to see her in action:

http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij/chucky1967/Yolanthe_Cabau_van_Kasbergen_gaat_helemaal_los_en_kleedt_zich_uit_.aspx

Don't bother, man. He's one of those people who can't accept being wrong. Next I'll be expected to believe that Ibra will be 37 at some point next season.

I actually agree with the madridstas here (I think).

Eto'o wasn't worth nothing when you used him as part of the deal for Ibra.

Therefore you didn't just pay 46 million, you paid at least 20 million more.

Of course you do, everyone does except cules.

 

[Raed]

Ward is a legend.

 

[Beast]

This is Sneijder birdy ? no wonder he is off form .. he need his strong knees elsewhere

Don't bother, man. He's one of those people who can't accept being wrong. Next I'll be expected to believe that Ibra will be 37 at some point next season.

Or i can post one liner non-sense in a football forum
If being wrong means i need to disregard your own club statement and people .. and being right only following the deluded can't face the facts .. i'm more than happy to be wrong arty00231:

 

[Poor_Sunyol]

Club statement that was invented by Gio d'Auro.

 

[Barcaman]

Ibrahimovic was paid close to 70 million euros with the Hleb penalty. As someone already pointed out, all those who claim Eto was worth 0 are just eating up what the club was claiming only to diminish the transfer fee. To top it Eto was willing to stay so had the club offered a reasonable contract we wouldn`t find ourselves in the 12 months expiring thing in the first place and could easily price him at 40 million or so.

 

[Poor_Sunyol]

Bollocks.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

you really don't even read these posts, do you? Just check who wrote it, support cule, mock Madridista. It's quite pathetic.

Anyway, reading these posts is bloody hilarious, I'm starting to think you guys have actually convinced each other that you are right

Everything you've written on this subject is just different permutations of the same thing, and i'm not Madrid bashing just rocking the boats all.Calm down.

 

[Esteve]

Or i can post one liner non-sense in a football forum
If being wrong means i need to disregard your own club statement and people .. and being right only following the deluded can't face the facts .. i'm more than happy to be wrong arty00231:

?

I can hardly take you seriously when you can't spell nonsense.

 

[Abaddon]

Everything you've written on this subject is just different permutations of the same thing

Well ehm.. of course it is? You expect me to change my explanation on the same subject every 5 minute to suit my argument, like the cules have been doing?

Props to Bojan, at least one guy who's still thinking straight on your side.

 

[Beast]

Ibrahimovic was paid close to 70 million euros with the Hleb penalty. As someone already pointed out, all those who claim Eto was worth 0 are just eating up what the club was claiming only to diminish the transfer fee. To top it Eto was willing to stay so had the club offered a reasonable contract we wouldn`t find ourselves in the 12 months expiring thing in the first place and could easily price him at 40 million or so.

Like a voice in the wilderness :beer2:

 

[Poor_Sunyol]

Another inmate for the asylum.