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Beast

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On a side note our indoor football team is brilliant
Beat Barca 12-6 (in Barca :dance: ) in the super cup
and beat Bilbao 12-8 yesterday

Barca also recovered from the home classico defeat and beat Seville 9-7
 
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Warik

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Madrid interested in Filipe Luis now apparently.

I really doubt you are interested in even half the players the press is linking you with.
 

Gnegneri

immaculately conceived
I do not know why Cules are arguing the ten million for Canales. While the ten million may seem a lot for unproven player, there is no reason to suggest that our scouts have not been seen potential especially that Portugal is one of our own works with him.

While our behavior with our very own Cantera is poor when it comes to the first team, that does not mean we do not have top notch scouts and/or trainers.

While you may consider that we paid 5 million extra on a player on the verge of breaking through, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we would have perhaps needed to pay another ten had he proven himself for a season and there has been competition ...
You can sweet talk every transfer like that, raed. Every young player has a sort of potential and there will always be competition.

But this is potential of another kind imo. The Canales kid hasn't even played a full game with Racing! His longest run on the pitch was versus Sevilla, 78 minutes, in 13 appearances. And I stay with my assessment: the only thing why he got big is because he scored those goals in Sevilla and the media went completely nuts. Even Revista came with "a new superstar in La Liga is born."

If 10 million for Canales is a doable fee, a thought through proposal, then so is 25 million for a UEFA Cup winning defender that was selected for best UEFA Eleven XI and 35 million for a French striker that had a super season and has the composure to score vs United. But everyone thought that was way too much.

No doubt Canales can become a good player, and I would have liked him at Barcelona, but not for 10 million. And on the other hand, if your scouts were that good, they would have targetted and signed him before the media went nuts and everyone got acquainted with the Canales hype. Cause you know, everyone knew he was a free agent before his scoring spree versus Sevilla and Espanyol. Certainly with your main man Portugal as his coach.
 

Beast

The Observer
He insisted on signing a contract for Racing to compensate his club for coaching him K it was his decision (and his father ) not Racing brilliance, it's not like any of those new young boys who would be happy to be a free agent to take the signing on fee in his pocket.
a very level headed and loyal lad
 

Gnegneri

immaculately conceived
He insisted on signing a contract for Racing to compensate his club for coaching him K it was his decision (and his father ) not Racing brilliance, it's not like any of those new young boys who would be happy to be a free agent to take the signing on fee in his pocket.
a very level headed and loyal lad
I really do like him. No doubt about that, even he plays for Real (unless he transforms into a cocky sonofabitch) I think he might be one of the more neutral Madridplayers around if he stays with you.

I meant that in a way that Real should have gone earlier for him if the scouts were that interested. Of course he would have renewed as well I think, but at least the deal would have already been done before the goal injection.

I mean, he is the same player as a month ago, right, before he scored four goals? He didn't get all of a sudden that great potential, he had it.
 

House of Flies

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if it was me, i would have bought him in november rather than jan..

in november, he would have been much cheaper than what he is now. thats what Gneg is aiming at.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
You can sweet talk every transfer like that, raed. Every young player has a sort of potential and there will always be competition.

But this is potential of another kind imo. The Canales kid hasn't even played a full game with Racing! His longest run on the pitch was versus Sevilla, 78 minutes, in 13 appearances. And I stay with my assessment: the only thing why he got big is because he scored those goals in Sevilla and the media went completely nuts. Even Revista came with "a new superstar in La Liga is born."

If 10 million for Canales is a doable fee, a thought through proposal, then so is 25 million for a UEFA Cup winning defender that was selected for best UEFA Eleven XI and 35 million for a French striker that had a super season and has the composure to score vs United. But everyone thought that was way too much.

No doubt Canales can become a good player, and I would have liked him at Barcelona, but not for 10 million. And on the other hand, if your scouts were that good, they would have targetted and signed him before the media went nuts and everyone got acquainted with the Canales hype. Cause you know, everyone knew he was a free agent before his scoring spree versus Sevilla and Espanyol. Certainly with your main man Portugal as his coach.

He may have been on Real Madrid's radar for a long time, no one will know. You cannot say that the only reason we bought him was because he scored two goals, how do you know? Fact of the matter is that with young players it is evident that they have potential but then it boils down to one factor, who has the guts to take their chances?

Of all the other players, he did. We love players like him, ones who grab life by the horn and make the best of it.

In the next year, he will get to work on his consistenc because there is no doubt in my mind that he will go for long periods of time without performing, and then rising to stardom and then back to under-performing. Except, it would not be at Madrid, so he will not be burnt.

As for Benziza, you know damn well how much every single Madridista hates that transfer. Absolutely garbage.
 

Gnegneri

immaculately conceived
He may have been on Real Madrid's radar for a long time, no one will know. You cannot say that the only reason we bought him was because he scored two goals, how do you know? Fact of the matter is that with young players it is evident that they have potential but then it boils down to one factor, who has the guts to take their chances?

Of all the other players, he did. We love players like him, ones who grab life by the horn and make the best of it.

In the next year, he will get to work on his consistenc because there is no doubt in my mind that he will go for long periods of time without performing, and then rising to stardom and then back to under-performing. Except, it would not be at Madrid, so he will not be burnt.

As for Benziza, you know damn well how much every single Madridista hates that transfer. Absolutely garbage.
I know, which is why I mention it. Benzema actually has something to back up his transfer fee (to a certain extent if you wish to be critical), so if you buy a youngster that has nothing to show except a limited number of minutes for 10 mil, why not buy the french pichichi for 35?

You are right, Raed (did you get a capital R?), I cannot prove that they only bought him because of the media fuzz. But I still think it happened that way. The timing is way too awkward.

They probably knew him, like Barcelona and other clubs knew him, but they only took action after the fuzz broke loose, and facts like Portugal is Madrid's homeboy doesn't really help the case. Hence, I firmly believe they only decided to act because of the fuzz in the media. If he hadn't got the fuzz, they probably kept on monitoring him withotu offering the buy-out.

And eventually, as a second reason for wanting to pay 10 mil for someone who didn't prove anything, is the lack of your own youth players. This makes Real's wallet a little less closed for this risky transfer.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
It has been agreed and well established that this current crop of Castilla is way poorer than the previous generation. If it wasn't for Michel and his relegation of the team we might have a better generation coming through but having Castilla playing in the third division is very poor. That is why we are excited about an upcoming talent, we do not have a cheaper option unfortunately.

Fuzz or not, in the past few years we have invested properly in our youth players. Our successful investments weigh a lot more than the poor ones.

Our purchase stems from the confidence we have in the club's scouting system. Higuain was also unnoticed until he scored 2 in the derby but these are rare moments in the world of football and a good hint at what might become of them. It is risky business but recent transactions give us enough confidence to go through.

Any proven or semi proven player will cost around 15-20 million if not more now-a-days. It is your decision to save risk paying ten million to save 5-10 million trusting the hints from the little time the player has been given, or wait until they prove themselves and then fight other big clubs for his signing offering 5-10 million more.

As for Benzima and his hefty price, as much as I hate the purchase, I refuse to pass a judgement on him just yet. He needs at least a year, and with Ronaldo, Xabi, Kaka all coming at the same time he will need even longer. We will wait until the more important positions are covered, settled and well functioning then intensive care will be given to fat french Ronaldo.
 
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