Real Madrid (old thread)

[Fourteen]

Yeah, but you know what each individual manager/president/chairman is like when it comes to valuing their own players.

My god...

really ,you lot need to stay away from any financial jobs, MBA,managerial jobs for good


Zlatan transfer value is 70

Gneg was trying to make it 50 after deduction the 20 Mil received from Eto'o value

clearer now ?

Yes because he was talking about money, not value. I've come into this debate late, but that's how i've seen the main misunderstanding between you two.

He is talking about monetary loss/gain and you are talking about the valuation of the players.

No doubt Ibrahimovic was valued at 70m, so Eto'o plus 49m would amount to the valuation of this specific deal, but like everyone one has said beforehand, only 49m was lost.

 

[Beast]

Yeah, but you know what each individual manager/president/chairman is like when it comes to valuing their own players.


Yes because he was talking about money, not value. I've come into this debate late, but that's how i've seen the main misunderstanding between you two.

He is talking about monetary loss/gain and you are talking about the valuation of the players.

No doubt Ibrahimovic was valued at 70m, so Eto'o plus 49m would amount to the valuation of this specific deal, but like everyone one has said beforehand, only 49m was lost.

no he is talking about value not just money (see the table he made ) ..as he was arguing Barca should deduct Eto'o value from Ibra transfer as in money received
moreover as i explained numerous times , assets (like players , bus,planes,training ground ) have a value .

Here is an easy example when you make an offer in soccermanager and you offer a player plus money before you confirm the offer doesn't your player appear in money value ? or just a player ?

any player in any club has value that equals money , when Eto'o move to Inter you paid them Eto'o Value (which equals money) + money in cash

 

[IrvDizzle]

That is why there was so much uproar throughout europe when zlatan was valued at 70m euros!! which I still find incredible as his true value is nearer 30m euros imho.

your opinion is anything but humble

Wenger has said he's not interested in going to Madrid this offseason. His contract is over Summer 2011. So allow me to borrow something from PTI:

Oddsmakers ... what are the chances that RMadrid sign a pre-agreement w/ Arsene this summer to guarantee his arrival next summer?

 

[Ryan_Cule]

no he is talking about value not just money (see the table he made ) ..as he was arguing Barca should deduct Eto'o value from Ibra transfer as in money received
moreover as i explained numerous times , assets (like players , bus,planes,training ground ) have a value .

Here is an easy example when you make an offer in soccermanager and you offer a player plus money before you confirm the offer doesn't your player appear in money value ? or just a player ?

any player in any club has value that equals money , when Eto'o move to Inter you paid them Eto'o Value (which equals money) + money in cash

One thing is Player`s Head amount & another is transfer Fee, if that you`r trying to mean here. I think you were trying to say we didn`t receive any sale price for Eto`o ?

 

[Antimilan]

No point in this Gneg, the whole forum knows Beast can't count

If it was only for that....

 

[Beast]

If it was only for that....

exactly , i can make antimilan look foolish or Idiot although you are doing an awesome job yourself you don't need any help in that .
how many people can come up with a totally different match event except you ?

here is :beer2: to Antimilan the forum clown

 

[Beast]

One thing is Player`s Head amount & another is transfer Fee, if that you`r trying to mean here. I think you were trying to say we didn`t receive any sale price for Eto`o ?

Head amount ?? come again

 

[barcetia]

what he's trying to say is, there is alot difference in Player Value and Transfer Fee.
If we had paid in cash the transfer fee would have been ~70 millions but since we had Eto'o in the transfer it was only ~40 millions. So we went 40 mills minus in the economy, which is what really matters.

 

[Beast]

what he's trying to say is, there is alot difference in Player Value and Transfer Fee.
If we had paid in cash the transfer fee would have been ~70 millions but since we had Eto'o in the transfer it was only ~40 millions. So we went 40 mills minus in the economy, which is what really matters.

No Barcetia , there isn't a single company/bank/club in the world calculate it this way ..

neither did Inter calculate it that way nor Barca , as i said the Barca commentator on Barca TV said during Zlatan presentation that Eto'o value in the deal is 20 million . that's the proper and ONLY way of calculating how much Barca paid for Zlatan .

You can be happy or upset with the deal .. it's your choice and it depend on the output of Ibra in Barca but you can never scratch out 20 Mil cause you feel it's too much vs the output of Zlatan

for example no one is talking about Cristiano value now , cause he did provide enough output to forget how much we paid. on the contrary is Kaka output makes the deal a rip off

 

[barcetia]

No Barcetia , there isn't a single company/bank/club in the world calculate it this way ..

neither did Inter calculate it that way nor Barca , as i said the Barca commentator on Barca TV said during Zlatan presentation that Eto'o value in the deal is 20 million . that's the proper and ONLY way of calculating how much Barca paid for Zlatan .

You can be happy or upset with the deal .. it's your choice and it depend on the output of Ibra in Barca but you can never scratch out 20 Mil cause you feel it's too much vs the output of Zlatan

for example no one is talking about Cristiano value now , cause he did provide enough output to forget how much we paid. on the contrary is Kaka output makes the deal a rip off

Well the difference is that Madrid PAID ~85 millions for Ronaldo and therefore that's his value and price at the same time, meaning that if someone would want to buy him they would presumably have to bid higher for that.

For Zlatan, we had to cough up 40 millions and give away a player, which doesn't cost us anything else than losing the actual player. A team that would want to buy Zlatan would not only have to give 40 million, but also what Eto'o was valued at since he was actually in the transfer so let's say ~70 millions.

I understand what you're meaning but I do not agree with it. We only paid 40 millions for Zlatan and therefore, you can only count those 40 millions.

 

[Antimilan]

exactly , i can make antimilan look foolish or Idiot although you are doing an awesome job yourself you don't need any help in that .
how many people can come up with a totally different match event except you ?

here is :beer2: to Antimilan the forum clown

Which different match event ? Grow up... get a life, and stop lying to people about your age trying to be mature.

 

[Beast]

Well the difference is that Madrid PAID ~85 millions for Ronaldo and therefore that's his value and price at the same time, meaning that if someone would want to buy him they would presumably have to bid higher for that.

For Zlatan, we had to cough up 40 millions and give away a player, which doesn't cost us anything else than losing the actual player. A team that would want to buy Zlatan would not only have to give 40 million, but also what Eto'o was valued at since he was actually in the transfer so let's say ~70 millions.

I understand what you're meaning but I do not agree with it. We only paid 40 millions for Zlatan and therefore, you can only count those 40 millions.

As i said there is no two ways of looking @ the value u paid not even in Barca account
a player equal money and what you paid will appear in the end of year financial statement as 70 Million , there isn't a single auditing firm (and i believe like us you work with Deloitte as your Auditing firm ) would put Eto'o value as zero or Zlatan value as 49 Mil

Which different match event ? Grow up... get a life, and stop lying to people about your age trying to be mature.

Oh band wagoner trying too much , spending most of his time in Real Madrid thread than Seville or his future new team Barca threads
obsessed with getting any sort of recognition .. poor kiddo

did someone steal your lunch box today?

 

[Valon]

But we didn't give Inter 70mil cash... seriously this argument is going nowhere we gave them 49mil cash and Eto'o... I don't see it how's that 70mil spent?

 

[Antimilan]

Still not answered the question. Where's that different match event your so much talking about ?

 

[AnfieldEd]

But we didn't give Inter 70mil cash... seriously this argument is going nowhere we gave them 49mil cash and Eto'o... I don't see it how's that 70mil spent?

Its not 70m euros spent but 70m euros valuation.

Therefore if you did not include eto'o in the deal you'd have to pay inter in monetary terms 70m euros.