Ronald Koeman

Birdy

Birdy

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4 big chances until 40th min (2 by Pedri, one by Dembele and one scored by Frenkie) should have been enough to cement this.
xG shot maps from two different models below (similar ones you would never see in such away matches under beloved Ernie):

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PS: "We played sooooo bad" camp either qualify what you mean, or else you are just talking nonsense.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
serghei said:
The team has structural flaws with Koeman that will be severely punished by any top side. Even at our worst, we will be good enough to easily handle a team like Huesca. But the fact that even Huesca made us look bad at times, and that in the last minutes we basically protected a 1-0 lead shows this team is not on the right path.
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It's not that Koeman created structural flaws, it's rather that he found a mess full of flaws with no structure, and he is trying to rectify that.
Again, it takes time, and during that time team will be vulnerable to the Getafes, Eibars, and Huescas.

But, as I said above, we were far better in this game and there is no grounding that Huesca deserved anything.
The last 10 min nervousness is a psychological problem.

serghei said:
The team hasn't improved anything in terms of Messidependencia. It's the same old shit, with a different manager and some younger chaps in the team, that are starting to go the Amigos route themselves. That's all. The template is the same. And the problems, the same that were developing for the last 3-4 years unbothered.
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As long as Messi is around, his word rules above of any coach (don't fool yourself that it will be different with Xavi).
That flaw can only be rectified when he leaves.
Until then, you can only work on all the other stuff, put Messi aside, and hope you can achieve sth even with that problem.
Koeman has improved the team despite Messi's worst term ever. This should be granted to him.

serghei said:
We have had issues, big issues with, speed of play, positional shape, work rate, problems in concentration, slowing down the game instead of exploiting counterattack opportunities, passing to certain players based on their name and status in the team etc.
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Take away the Messidependencia problems that are as you say,
I see work-rate has improved, high pressing as soon as possession is lost has improved, positional play has improved, congestion down the middle is getting better and if both Ansu and Dembele play it will dramatically improve.

Needless to say, a lot more needed.

But it's night and day compared to Ernie's tenure
 
Horatio

Horatio

You're welcome
Solid coach. Most players play inspired, but can't convert. First half was solid. Final 20 minutes garbage though.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
serghei said:
Real Castilla? Al Sadd would probably beat them 7 times out of 10. And based on rumors, Zidane wasn't doing that well at Castilla was he?

They are great examples. They got their chance.
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Zidane was assistant to Ancelotti for couple of years before it.
Being better team is also not the issue, it is different thing when you are coaching reserve team than coaching in Asia.
Xavi has a lot to learn tbh, and he needs one more step before Barca, otherwise he will be setting himself for failure.


And tbh, Are we sure Xavi is interested in rebuilding project. I think if he comes he wants a team that can help him to win and put his ideas.
Not to spend 2 seasons rebuilding team, just to get sacked for lack of results and next manager get advantage of what he has built. I mean he can take a look at what is happening with Lampard, and he will be content with Koeman taking the blame for another year or two while we reinforce our squad.


With all of that being said, I think folks need to remember how strict Barca, and most big clubs, about coach speaking Spanish to a certain degree.
We aren't going to hire 33 years old Nagelsmann who is younger than couple of our players when he doesn't speak a Spanish word. If we hire a coach like him or Tuchel, we will need to agree with him months prior to learn to speak some of the language and have some basic communication skills at least.
 
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Porque

Senior Member
We are getting close to our best 11 by force of injuries and design.

We just lack Ansu back to full fitness or Depay at 9 and a rest option for Pedri (Puig is there, but, you know).

We're not challenging for anything bar Copa more than likely, but it is not normal to miss so many chances and give away so many mistakes at the back so consistently.

This Koeman team is better than the league position suggests.
 
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