Ronald Koeman

[Bobo32]

Yeah it?s real.


Here?s one from the press conference after the game:

Wow, he IS a big boy now

OK, this confirms my observation that you live in your dream-land. Don't take it personally, I don't want to offend you, there is no more polite way to put this.

But it explains why you are so sold on Xavi, who at best will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka without realizing that a decade has passed since then.
No firm grounding on reality is the greatest recipe for disaster, and that's a reason Xavi should stay away from Barca until he baptizes himself well enough in the wild world of European football, and proves that he can get rid of his dogmatism and adapt his principles to current to-date football.

Everything in sport and in nature in general shall be constantly renewed or else it dies out.
Pep himself, presented the last 1.5 years the most defensive and cynical version of his football, because he knows that, and he is constantly adapting or else he would not be winning anything.
Look at the fate of poor Mourinho who is climbing down level after level, because he just cannot adapt.

Could Pep's tiki taka survicve after 2012 as it was played until then?
Probably no, and we saw that already with Tito, who was a big advocate, a pupil of Pep, and continued on the same lines.
Bayern thrashing was a rude awakening.
Then after some experimentation, Lucho was the one to find some sustainable way of playing that does not violate the values and principles of this club, but can be effective as well on the top level.
So, your revisionist reading of those years (until before EV to say the least) is totally off. What would have happened if your proposal was adopted, would be a steady and constant decline on the top of Tito's season on the same fashion, with the same weaknesses being exposed easier and easier. And the waste of Messi's years would be even worse than what you can imagine

You don't offend me, I think as little of your views to be perfectly honest. Your posts about xG and Koeman being great in the last days seems completely ridiculous to me, as seems this discussion about managers needing to prove themselves (exemplified with Flick, ten Hag and Pep...)
You don't answer my questions though, that's the one thing that is a bit rude.
I asked you to show what coaches were a success to Barcelona that were proven beforehand.

Pep is adapting and winning, and he is playing all the time true to his vision and in a way approved by Bobo32. He said the other day that you can't separate off/def and this point I agree with.
Tito was dying but I think he would be great if he could've lived and managed Barcelona for a few more years.
Enrique tweaked the system and managed to sneak a treble with the best trio ever. He was a disaster for Barcelona in the long run.

 

[Givenchy]

Reality denial [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION] at its finest.
What he talks in the interviews is so nice for a lecture, and the next moment he says that Pogba is primarily a physical, and not technical enough, player, then you realize how all this knowledge goes to the trashbin, because his judgment is problematic.

At best, as said above, he will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka around 09-12 without realizing that a decade has passed, and without any firm grounding on current football reality

Xavi will add small, technical players attempting to play tikitaka, get us totally bullied in Europe and then cry about the grass being too long.

I loved him as a player and Barca management should be in his future but now isn't the time imo, we need something different and thats not to mention his only managerial job is in Qatar ffs. Barca's style is being left in the dust

 

[DonAK]

Xavi will add small, technical players attempting to play tikitaka, get us totally bullied in Europe and then cry about the grass being too long.

I loved him as a player and Barca management should be in his future but now isn't the time imo, we need something different and thats not to mention his only managerial job is in Qatar ffs. Barca's style is being left in the dust

There is absolutely nothing to suggest Xavi will do anything like that.

 

[Bobo32]

Reality denial [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION] at its finest.
What he talks in the interviews is so nice for a lecture, and the next moment he says that Pogba is primarily a physical, and not technical enough, player, then you realize how all this knowledge goes to the trashbin, because his judgment is problematic.

At best, as said above, he will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka around 09-12 without realizing that a decade has passed, and without any firm grounding on current football reality

lol@problematic. I get called a troll, are you trolling?

 

[serghei]

Sometimes I think people confuse Xavi with fucking Gai Assulin.

Guy worked with all sorts of managers, had an illustrious career being the brain of the best side of all time, and is one of the most gifted thinkers the game has ever seen.

Xavi is about the best bet you can make for a manager with little experience. It's either him, or an expert tier 1 name like Pep, Klopp, or more recently Tuchel.

 

[Birdy]

Xavi will be the best Barca manager we had since Pep.

Lol. Current football reality. What world are you living on? The CL final is played between Pep and a Pep fanboy. So, yes, please, let's hope Xavi will go down this route and follow in their footsteps.

See my post just above this one replying to Bobo.
Pep has been adapting the last 10 years.
Xavi shows dogmatism in his interviews and unwillingness to adapt

 

[Devils]

Xavi just renewed for another 2 years.

Time for Brendan 'Tiki Taka' Rodgers.

Make the call, Laporta.

 

[malvolio]

Is Xavi an idiot driven only by money? Why not take over a medium European side. Why would he renew in Qatar?

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Is Xavi an idiot driven only by money? Why not take over a medium European side. Why would he renew in Qatar?

Renew would be very stupid, he should take a club in europe.

 

[malvolio]

Renew would be very stupid, he should take a club in europe.

Either the guy is stupid or just a fraud who has no balls and just waits to take over an already created team with players in their prime.

Sorry but this is no guy up for a challenge.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Either the guy is stupid or just a fraud who has no balls and just waits to take over an already created team with players in their prime.

Sorry but this is no guy up for a challenge.

Yeah i would be really disappointed in Xavi if this is true. I thinkhe is unsure about coaching barca, he knows it would be a very big task to bringt them back on the top. i can understand it, he is still a newbie in terms of coaching but go atleast to a small/middle club in europe and collect new experiences dude.

 

[Laplacian]

Is Xavi an idiot driven only by money? Why not take over a medium European side. Why would he renew in Qatar?

Who cares? I swear, Pep Guardiola cursed this club with Barca DNA nonsense. We shouldn't be wasting time debating over some manager in fucking Qatar. But because he's le Barca DNA we're busy debating over his future career prospects in the next few months. Like come on...


Who cares?

 

[malvolio]

Who cares? I swear, Pep Guardiola cursed this club with Barca DNA nonsense. We shouldn't be wasting time debating over some manager in fucking Qatar. But because he's le Barca DNA we're busy debating over his future career prospects in the next few months. Like come on...


Who cares?

it's just surprising that a guy in his position doesn't want to take over a medium to big team in europe. look at xabi alonso, the man went straight at it.

 

[Porque]

Now knowing Brendan speaks Spanish, it makes him a very logical choice. Given that Xavi will probably not come right now.

Plus, here is an interesting stat for you. Barcelona has had 9 British managers in their history. 8 of those have won trophies at the club. The only 1 that didn't was the second ever manager in our history and was managing the club for less than a year. So he basically doesn't even count (thanks for helping set up the club though!).

History is on the side of Brendan Rogers.

 

[fergus90]

Sometimes I think people confuse Xavi with fucking Gai Assulin.

Guy worked with all sorts of managers, had an illustrious career being the brain of the best side of all time, and is one of the most gifted thinkers the game has ever seen.

Xavi is about the best bet you can make for a manager with little experience. It's either him, or an expert tier 1 name like Pep, Klopp, or more recently Tuchel.

The only thing that holds me back about getting Xavi now is the number of players he played with there and the lack of transfer funds available to get the players he’d want.

I personally got faith he will turn out very well but think the timing isn’t ideal yet