Ronald Koeman

[wisconsincule]

Did not know Rodgers knew Spanish and wanted to coach Barca. Our board would never consider him though.

He has no connection to Barca. Immediately removes him from the list of options

He is an interesting option....

 

[fergus90]

I would take him over Xavi too. One thing this club has lacked for a long time is a coach, not just a manager. People like Rodgers, Guardiola, Tuchel etc aren't just managers they individually improve players by coaching them. With improved players who have a system much more likely to work. You see videos of Guardiola constantly stopping training sessions to instill something into a player.

I honestly think we have lacked a 'coach' in recent years and now with big talents like Fati,Pedri, Araujo, Puig, Mingueza coming through a coach is now more needed than ever. Hell, even younger players like FDJ could go up a couple more levels with the right guidance.

 

[Bobo32]

Mate, your understanding of the sport makes me sad honestly.
If you think that Xavi or whoever 'Barca DNA' would be better at Barca than Ten Haag, Flick, Nagelsman, Tuchel, and Klopp, then sorry you don't get the sport

Pep is Pep. Generational talent and defined football. Happens once in a 100 years.
Not everytime Barca need or think they need a coach.
Wake up from your dream-land.

I understand the sport differently to you, yes.
I don't care about your understanding so much, but what makes me a bit sad is that Barcelona wasted close to 10 years of prime Messi and Busquets by first buying Neymar and Suarez and relying too much on them, and later to try to replace them, instead of focusing on what made Barcelona so great in the first place. It's also strange to me that those who are so "anti Barca-DNA" and "anti-tikitaka" can at the same time blame Rosell and Bartomeu so hard, when they did all they could to get away from Barca-DNA and tikitaka as the foundation. I'm sure most of you people were very positive to at least 2/3 of Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann beforehand.

And I will add that your reading is a bit off here as well, I did in no way compare those names to Xavi in terms of being a better fit. I said a lot of them either are unproven or were unproven when they got their first big team. That was my point. In 2 years, the list of "world class coaches" will be different, and some of the names on that list are unproven today.

I can say now however that I have a feeling Xavi is the best name for Barcelona, and I listed some reasons the other day.
If this is so ridiculous, based on him being unproven, then list the coaches that were a success for Barcelona who were proven beforehand, and those who were not.
Obviously I'm just a patzer and have no clue if my feeling towards Xavi is correct, I didn't even watch one of his teams games. Laporta should be competent to decide.

 

[Bobo32]

Yesterdays subs

Ronald Araujo (injr) >>> Sergi Roberto
Pedri >>> Mingueza (Bob to Midfield)
Antoine Griezmann >>> Braithwaite
Ousmane Dembele >>> Dest
Sergi Roberto >>> Puig

Would these subs (and rotations for that matter) have had us top of LaLiga?

Ronald Araujo (injr) >>> Eric Garcia
Pedri >>> Wijnaldum
Antoine Griezmann >>> Aguero
Ousmane Dembele >>> Depay
Sergi Roberto >>> Puig

Of course Araujo for Roberto in a back 3 ahead of Mingueza was a bonehead move. Not that Mingueza was any good versus Atleti of course.

Some of the subs didn't need to be made, and the subs were directly decisive in losing the 3 points.
It's a bit silly to argue after the fact, but if only Roberto won the header, or Dest won his 1v1, Barcelona would've won yesterday...

I don't think these players are a significant upgrade though, and especially under Koeman, it wouldn't improve very much. Wijnaldum and Depay would prob start in a 4-2-3-1 until that showed to be bad, then he'd try a back 3 (back 5) again until that didn't work and so on...

 

[Ahmedd]

Team needs a proper CB, DM and ST => Komean simp for Depay

 

[Total-Football]

To this day I don't understand how we never went for unai emerey

 

[Richard.H]

In addition to all the other subs the users here talked about, I also thought the Dembele sub was incredibly stupid. He was a huge attacking threat and was causing havoc with his speed for the Levante defenders

 

[FC B]

sorry brah, we only do spanish or dutch speakers. tuchel doesn't fit the bill.

Is Ancelotti a spanish speaker? I think so.

I cannot believe we are not being linked to Brendan 'Tiki Taka' Rodgers.

A top top manager is available and we are not even interested. This club is shambles.

We'll probably keep Conman Koeman or hire his Spanish equivalent in Roberto Martinez.

Hopefully, this club wins no trophies for the next few years. Absolute horrendous management and it deserves what it has coming!

If Laporta keeps Koeman after this season I wonder how is that Farto got to be our new president?

 

[Bobo32]

In addition to all the other subs the users here talked about, I also thought the Dembele sub was incredibly stupid. He was a huge attacking threat and was causing havoc with his speed for the Levante defenders

Yeah, Dembele at RWB worked pretty decently. He should be even wider, and with less defensive responsibilities I think, but that position is one where he could be useful I think.

 

[Bobo32]

Just found this pic. Is it manipulated? He didn't look THIS big yesterday tbh

 

[Vilarrubi]

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Just found this pic. Is it manipulated? He didn't look THIS big yesterday tbh

Yeah it’s real.


Here’s one from the press conference after the game:

 

[Birdy]

I understand the sport differently to you, yes.
I don't care about your understanding so much, but what makes me a bit sad is that Barcelona wasted close to 10 years of prime Messi and Busquets by first buying Neymar and Suarez and relying too much on them, and later to try to replace them, instead of focusing on what made Barcelona so great in the first place. It's also strange to me that those who are so "anti Barca-DNA" and "anti-tikitaka" can at the same time blame Rosell and Bartomeu so hard, when they did all they could to get away from Barca-DNA and tikitaka as the foundation. I'm sure most of you people were very positive to at least 2/3 of Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann beforehand.

OK, this confirms my observation that you live in your dream-land. Don't take it personally, I don't want to offend you, there is no more polite way to put this.

But it explains why you are so sold on Xavi, who at best will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka without realizing that a decade has passed since then.
No firm grounding on reality is the greatest recipe for disaster, and that's a reason Xavi should stay away from Barca until he baptizes himself well enough in the wild world of European football, and proves that he can get rid of his dogmatism and adapt his principles to current to-date football.

Everything in sport and in nature in general shall be constantly renewed or else it dies out.
Pep himself, presented the last 1.5 years the most defensive and cynical version of his football, because he knows that, and he is constantly adapting or else he would not be winning anything.
Look at the fate of poor Mourinho who is climbing down level after level, because he just cannot adapt.

Could Pep's tiki taka survicve after 2012 as it was played until then?
Probably no, and we saw that already with Tito, who was a big advocate, a pupil of Pep, and continued on the same lines.
Bayern thrashing was a rude awakening.
Then after some experimentation, Lucho was the one to find some sustainable way of playing that does not violate the values and principles of this club, but can be effective as well on the top level.
So, your revisionist reading of those years (until before EV to say the least) is totally off. What would have happened if your proposal was adopted, would be a steady and constant decline on the top of Tito's season on the same fashion, with the same weaknesses being exposed easier and easier. And the waste of Messi's years would be even worse than what you can imagine

 

[serghei]

The hell guys... Brendan Rodgers ahead of Midfield Maestro Barca-master Xavi?

Xavi is the man. Listen to his interviews, man has such a deep understanding of possession game it's like listening to Carl Sagan talking about stars. Take a leap of faith here, and go with Xavi for a couple of years.

And stop with the "Barca DNA". What Barca DNA, Koeman doesn't have any of that or else Puig would've had over 1000 minutes by now.

 

[Birdy]

The hell guys... Brendan Rodgers ahead of Midfield Maestro Barca-master Xavi?

Xavi is the man. Listen to his interviews, man has such a deep understanding of possession game it's like listening to Carl Sagan talking about stars. Take a leap of faith here, and go with Xavi for a couple of years.

And stop with the "Barca DNA". What Barca DNA, Koeman doesn't have any of that or else Puig would've had over 1000 minutes by now.

Reality denial [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION] at its finest.
What he talks in the interviews is so nice for a lecture, and the next moment he says that Pogba is primarily a physical, and not technical enough, player, then you realize how all this knowledge goes to the trashbin, because his judgment is problematic.

At best, as said above, he will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka around 09-12 without realizing that a decade has passed, and without any firm grounding on current football reality

 

[serghei]

Reality denial [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION] at its finest.
What he talks in the interviews is so nice for a lecture, and the next moment he says that Pogba is primarily a physical, and not technical enough, player, then you realize how all this knowledge goes to the trashbin, because his judgment is problematic.

At best, as said above, he will try to replicate Pep's tiki-taka around 09-12 without realizing that a decade has passed, and without any firm grounding on current football reality

Xavi will be the best Barca manager we had since Pep.

Lol. Current football reality. What world are you living on? The CL final is played between Pep and a Pep fanboy. So, yes, please, let's hope Xavi will go down this route and follow in their footsteps.