Ronald Koeman

[Tackle]

Fancy words make you look smart .. record of achievements makes Laporta look smart. He did not start yet give him time

Old records and achievements mean nothing in football in relation to present ability. In that case might as well bring back Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta and Alves as players. Hire Mourinho as manager and keep Pique and Busquets for the next decade while we're at it, shall we?

The game evolves, adapts and moves on quickly. Definitely not a negative sign that Laporta had success in his previous reign, but no guarantee of future success either. He will get time, my words won't change that.

 

[kattanib]

Old records and achievements mean nothing in football in relation to present ability. In that case might as well bring back Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta and Alves as players. Hire Mourinho as manager and keep Pique and Busquets for the next decade while we're at it, shall we?

The game evolves, adapts and moves on quickly. Definitely not a negative sign that Laporta had success in his previous reign, but no guarantee of future success either. He will get time, my words won't change that.

Have you heard of a millionaire who lost most of his money and managed to regain his fortune? Have you heard of a successful investor who has been investing for years through different generations? Why cannot this same apply to a president who knows how to manage a club?

Do you have friends who are good at playing strategy board games like Risk? Would they be able to adapt to a new strategy board game, learn it and be good at it too?

As a person if you know how to manage and lead, you hire other people who complete these mundane things you do not know like what is the latest trends nowadays .. etc. but through your experience you will have a good judge of character and know who to hire

 

[jairzinho]

Laporta. "There are no transition seasons at Barcelona".
He must have some memory loss. How many trophies did we win in Rijkaards first season? At one point we were, 18 place in the league and kod by Celtic in Uefa cup from memory.

His first year back in 03/04 was a roller coaster ride but he stuck with Rijkaard and eventually it paid off. The situation today is similar in some ways. Club is in serious debt, team needs massive upgrade but difference now is expectations and demands are huge. Media and Fans today are impatient, and restless, results have to be immediate. The conditions are not conducive for a coach to come in and build a project that would take some time to mature. Either you win now or you're out.

So a new coach would be under immense pressure for immediate results. The risk of trusting in the younger players is higher because now you don't have the time to work with them. He would have to balance between being results oriented while at the same time developing the younger players. Would be tough for anyone coming in.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

At this point might as well get rid of him and take a chance of xavi. Koeman laporta relationship might be beyond repair

Although I doubt it who knows be might just be the new pep. stranger things have happened.

Best case he becomes out ferguson for 20plus years and pep regrets not coming back when he had the chance when his club was in crisis

 

[Klysmakabouter]

Media and Fans today are impatient, and restless, results have to be immediate. The conditions are not conducive for a coach to come in and build a project that would take some time to mature. Either you win now or you're out.

This is a big problem. You got international fans that came when there was succes but have nothing with the city, the culture and the history of Barca. They just want to cheer for the winning team. They?re impatient.

They don?t want to build for the future. If a club adheres to this kind of pressure, you can see a steady decline. It?s what got big clubs like Manchester United and AC Milan in trouble. Always wanting quick results, just by buying them. Not by building them. Bringing one big manager name after the other, doing big acquisitions of players most often without a plan; just to seem big and please the fans.

That?s not what got Barca big in the first place; that was patience, building from youth and a clear culture and philosophy. Cruyff had 6 seasons (also seasons with only the copa), Rijkaard had 5, Gaurdiola had 4. People should play less Fifa and remember what made Barca great in the first place.

 

[serghei]

His first year back in 03/04 was a roller coaster ride but he stuck with Rijkaard and eventually it paid off. The situation today is similar in some ways. Club is in serious debt, team needs massive upgrade but difference now is expectations and demands are huge. Media and Fans today are impatient, and restless, results have to be immediate. The conditions are not conducive for a coach to come in and build a project that would take some time to mature. Either you win now or you're out.

So a new coach would be under immense pressure for immediate results. The risk of trusting in the younger players is higher because now you don't have the time to work with them. He would have to balance between being results oriented while at the same time developing the younger players. Would be tough for anyone coming in.

There is gonna be pressure no matter what, we're not Arsenal. But the manager shouldn't necessarily be replaced even if we win nothing for 1 year or 2. However, there are big question marks if Koeman is the right manager to give time to. Obviously not all managers would benefit much from getting more time.

In my opinion, he is not, but could live with him getting another year under these conditions. Also, if somehow we reach a point where a title is within our reach due to many circumstances falling in our favor, and we have to just win vs some mid-bottom table in the last 4-5 games to be champions, and we fuck it up, then the result matters.

It's about the competition really. This year the rivals were mediocre teams very much our level, so expecting a La Liga would not have been unreasonable. So Koeman should be held accountable for fucking it up. In other circumstances, where Madrid and Atletico look better and more dominant, losing the league in a year like this is not a big deal.

 

[Bobo32]

Continuity is good, with the right person.
It should not be as simple as "someone else before had bad results in his first year and later it went better for him" or "he won a title and it wasn't completely terrible resultswise"

For me it's very obvious watching the games that Ronald Koeman doesn't have the quality. It's downhill from here with him. This would've been the same if the team managed to win the treble in the end of this season.
A very ridiculous take that he is a "club legend" and so can't be "disrespected" - often by the same people disrespecting f.e Busquets day in day out.
Laporta looked to me to be very respecting of Koeman though.

 

[Sterlingfan2000]

Ballauge Just confirmed that Laporta asked Koeman to resign and he said no. And he is staying because of Barcelona has no money for his sacking (13M)

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Ballauge Just confirmed that Laporta asked Koeman to resign and he said no. And he is staying because of Barcelona has no money for his sacking (13M)

This sounds like disaster though..

 

[JamDav1982]

Exactly as said yesterday.. Laporta wants rid of him and trying to make him quit but the way he is going about it makes anyone with any self respect dig in and make it even harder.

The only saving grace for Laporta could be Koeman to some extent putting club first and agreeing a structured/delayed payment but Laporta is making that less likely.

Amateur stuff and without a plan.

Sign the platers Koeman wanted then sack him. Sign Aguero for Messi. Have no idea or no agreement who next coach is. Sack La Masia staff and try to find jobs somewhere for anyone who supported campaign.

Undoubtedly a tough situation but even outwith that there is no direction being show far at all.

 

[Porque]

Sounds like typical Balague too though, embellishing the truth and mixing fact with fiction.

 

[jamrock]

Balague is a liar

 

[clemente]

Se Queda

Flick is Ger NT, Conte would never coach bunch of under 10km per game deadbeats, and there is nothing else on the market. It's a shame since Koeman isn't good enough, and on top of that Laporta showed him that he doesn't want him here. Gonna see some bad locker room vibes next season, back to that Rakitic Suarez Valverde locker room energy.

 

[serghei]

Exactly as said yesterday.. Laporta wants rid of him and trying to make him quit but the way he is going about it makes anyone with any self respect dig in and make it even harder.

The only saving grace for Laporta could be Koeman to some extent putting club first and agreeing a structured/delayed payment but Laporta is making that less likely.

Amateur stuff and without a plan.

Sign the platers Koeman wanted then sack him. Sign Aguero for Messi. Have no idea or no agreement who next coach is. Sack La Masia staff and try to find jobs somewhere for anyone who supported campaign.

Undoubtedly a tough situation but even outwith that there is no direction being show far at all.

Season barely over though. There is time. Signs so far aren't positive, but Laporta needs to understand it's either Koeman for another year or trusting someone with no top credentials like Xavi. No other options.

As you say, Laporta wants to put pressure on him to leave, but totally the wrong way to approach the situation considering multiple aspects, most important one being that Koeman is a very big Barca legend.

 

[Horatio]