Ronaldo

[Horatio]

What event lol.

Masalation has arrived. You seem like such a pathological liar I would bet you're an Indian working at a scammer call centre for a living.

Damn… becoming a mod has left you unrestrained. Holding no hostages.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Globe trotting Temp who's in NYC one day, in London the other day, and somewhere premier in Europe yet another day...has met Lewandowski, CR7, R9 and a few celebs...still finds enough time in his day to conjure up 8,000 posts in a year on a Barca forum while not being a Barca fan.

Some you just need to be at the right time at the right place, i will never forget how i saw Mario Goetze eating a hamburger in Dusseldorf

 

[KingLeo10]

Some you just need to be at the right time at the right place, i will never forget how i saw Mario Goetze eating a hamburger in Dusseldorf

Someone should notify the FBI that a 107 year old Portuguese man is stalking some young'un eat hamburgers

 

[L3v1s]

I don't like getting involved with forum feuds, but I can honestly see why Temptation is getting so much hate. While you don't have to be a sheep and follow the general trend, he only seems to spur divisive and unpopular opinions that in the end are only meant to cause controversy. And if that's not enough, I noticed that sometimes he goes on calling everyone incels with some sort of superiority

Dont know how many of his takes are serious and how much is just trolling, but the moment he called R9 a bum indirectly, that's when I knew I should take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[Gnidrologist]

He's a teenager, who never had any life outside of internet. This much is obvious. He's kept in here for comedy relief, otherwise we would just sit here and be all doom and gloom serious old guys lamenting the downfall of our beloved club in cigarette smoke filled room. When Barca starts kicking again, he will be gone, no ban needed.

 

[companyofcules]

 

[Maradona37]

Lewandowski has the much better career.


Numbers at every level don't lie.


Also Van Basten is just flat out better. Brazilian Football has the best image and marketing which people like Neymar benefitted from. Nostalgia is a dangerous drug. R9's style of play isn't sustainable and he found out the tough way.

I hadn't seen this thread before, but I have just read the last few pages...

Now that it has been bumped by someone, I hope you can moderate yourself and refrain from typing this sort of nonsense in future

Van Basten (all-time great) better than R9

Dismissing Neymar AND Ronaldo's genius due to 'nostalgia' and/or 'Brazilian bias'

And Lewandowski (great striker though he is) isn't good enough to clean R9s toilets.

 

[Maradona37]

So was RL9.

At one point, he had 121 goals and 29 assists in his last 99 games and had like 30 goals and 7 assists in his last 20 CL games. Those are literally peak Messi Ronaldo level numbers.



In that period, Mbappe/CR7 were statistically the closest and even they were behind by 40 odd goals in the previous 2 years or so combined.




It's just that he isn't from a glamorous nation and people don't wanna credit him. If he was from a 'sexy' nation like France, Brazil, Argentina people would be twerking for him.



The guy has like 80 goals and 40 assists for an embarassing National Team. The recency bias against him is crazy. Him being shite post WC doesn't change the career he has had. Especially since R9 was awful in his last few years.

Lewandowski is an excellent striker, but he isn't a football genius. Ronaldo was. All this wanking off over out-of-context stats needs to fucking stop in football. You yourself said you shouldn't compare players across eras, yet you are happy to compare their goal records when it suits the player you favour.

Posting out of context goal stats in a deeply uneven era where guys like Lukaku rack up the stats won't prove anything. R9 played against the best defenders of all-time, in a more equal era, and was devastating.

Lewandowski scored many more goals than Maradona and - without hyperbole - Maradona was 10 times more talented.

Lewandowski would score far fewer goals in 90s Serie A than he did for Bayern -where Bayern played against good, but far weaker teams than themselves, in a league they had a monopoly over - and everyone reading this knows that.

I like you as a guy but your love for Lewandowski is very bizarre. At least C Ronaldo is a top ten player of all time. Honestly, Suarez and Benzema were better than Lewandowski. He's world-class and that and a brilliant player but he's not a top 80 player of all time (dispute this and you need to know more about the history of the game), so I don't know where this massive love for him comes from for you? His style of play isn't conducive to gaining fanboys and he doesn't seem like an attention seeker like the Portuguese plastic freak, so what is it? Where did this Lewa love emanate from?

Also, nobody cares that he's Polish. Salah for example is one of my favourite players, is from Egypt, and they are even worse than Poland at football. I am not a Haaland fan but many people love him and he's from Norway, who are pish and haven't qualified for a tournament since almost before the millennium kicked in. That's just a weak point you use to allow you to dismiss anyone's criticism of him 'it's cos he isn't from Brazil'.

Also, Lewandowski has won one CL in his entire career. He failed in a lot of big games for Bayern, outside the Bundesliga. Trying to talk him up a a CL superstar is ridiculous.

You turn people like me against Lewa with ludicrous claims of him being better than R9. I really rate Lewa and want to like him, but you make it difficult by overstating his excellence. R9 is a completely different level and you need to wind your neck in. It's like being adamant that Jennifer Aniston is better looking than Adriana Lima - yeah Aniston can be argued to be fairly hot by some, even if she is overrated, but Lima is one of the best ever.

R9 is a completely different standard to Lewa and it's gross to see you put him down to elevate Lewa. You even called him a 'fat bum' or words to that effect earlier in the thread - show respect to him as a footballer.

 

[KingLeo10]

Looks like Temp is back to his usual antics of shitting on Barca, ex-Barca, and Brazilian players.

Alien playing level and dominating elite/GOAT defenders (and having other legends of the game such as ZZ, Seedorf, Nesta, Maldini, Pep, Mourinho etc. etc. vouch for you) >>> volume stats

Ain't nobody putting Lewa above R9 in football history

Absolutely nobody.

 

[L3v1s]

Lewandowski is an excellent striker, but he isn't a football genius. Ronaldo was. All this wanking off over out-of-context stats needs to fucking stop in football. You yourself said you shouldn't compare players across eras, yet you are happy to compare their goal records when it suits the player you favour.

Posting out of context goal stats in a deeply uneven era where guys like Lukaku rack up the stats won't prove anything. R9 played against the best defenders of all-time, in a more equal era, and was devastating.

Lewandowski scored many more goals than Maradona and - without hyperbole - Maradona was 10 times more talented.

Lewandowski would score far fewer goals in 90s Serie A than he did for Bayern -where Bayern played against good, but far weaker teams than themselves, in a league they had a monopoly over - and everyone reading this knows that.

I like you as a guy but your love for Lewandowski is very bizarre. At least C Ronaldo is a top ten player of all time. Honestly, Suarez and Benzema were better than Lewandowski. He's world-class and that and a brilliant player but he's not a top 80 player of all time (dispute this and you need to know more about the history of the game), so I don't know where this massive love for him comes from for you? His style of play isn't conducive to gaining fanboys and he doesn't seem like an attention seeker like the Portuguese plastic freak, so what is it? Where did this Lewa love emanate from?

Also, nobody cares that he's Polish. Salah for example is one of my favourite players, is from Egypt, and they are even worse than Poland at football. I am not a Haaland fan but many people love him and he's from Norway, who are pish and haven't qualified for a tournament since almost before the millennium kicked in. That's just a weak point you use to allow you to dismiss anyone's criticism of him 'it's cos he isn't from Brazil'.

Also, Lewandowski has won one CL in his entire career. He failed in a lot of big games for Bayern, outside the Bundesliga. Trying to talk him up a a CL superstar is ridiculous.

You turn people like me against Lewa with ludicrous claims of him being better than R9. I really rate Lewa and want to like him, but you make it difficult by overstating his excellence. R9 is a completely different level and you need to wind your neck in. It's like being adamant that Jennifer Aniston is better looking than Adriana Lima - yeah Aniston can be argued to be fairly hot by some, even if she is overrated, but Lima is one of the best ever.

R9 is a completely different standard to Lewa and it's gross to see you put him down to elevate Lewa. You even called him a 'fat bum' or words to that effect earlier in the thread - show respect to him as a footballer.

I agree this obsessive simping for Lewandowski from some users is goofy at times. Despite some of his cringe celebrations, he seems like a good lad and he's obviously one of the best strikers of the last 20-30 years. I obviously want him to succeed at Barca, but the way some people talk about him and also downplay other legendary strikers of the game as if they're bums(not just contemporary ones)is kinda silly, makes it less credible aswell.

 

[Maradona37]

I agree this obsessive simping for Lewandowski from some users is goofy at times. Despite some of his cringe celebrations, he seems like a good lad and he's obviously one of the best strikers of the last 20-30 years. I obviously want him to succeed at Barca, but the way some people talk about him and also downplay other legendary strikers of the game as if they're bums(not just contemporary ones)is kinda silly, makes it less credible aswell.

That's exactly the problem.

Nobody is saying Lewa isn't a brilliant striker. He does seem like a nice lad indeed. Claims he is just a poacher are absurd. But it's also equally absurd when people overcompensate and put him on a level and against players that he doesn't belong. He's been a fantastic striker and, as you say, one of the very best strikers of the last 30 years. That's a fair amount of credit for him. Putting down Ronaldo to elevate Lewa isn't on and will just make people (like me) turn against Robert when we do not want to.

 

[L3v1s]

That's exactly the problem.

Nobody is saying Lewa isn't a brilliant striker. He does seem like a nice lad indeed. Claims he is just a poacher are absurd. But it's also equally absurd when people overcompensate and put him on a level and against players that he doesn't belong. He's been a fantastic striker and, as you say, one of the very best strikers of the last 30 years. That's a fair amount of credit for him. Putting down Ronaldo to elevate Lewa isn't on and will just make people (like me) turn against Robert when we do not want to.

True, one of the main arguments here is the fact that he's been consistent and banged hundreds of goals. Haaland might end up racking 800+ goals by the end of his career. Could very easily score 100+ goals in the Champions League aswell, it doesnt make him better than the likes of Ronaldo, Van Basten, Muller, Suarez, Batistuta etc.

 

[Maradona37]

True, one of the main arguments here is the fact that he's been consistent and banged hundreds of goals. Haaland might end up racking 800+ goals by the end of his career. Could very easily score 100+ goals in the Champions League aswell, it doesnt make him better than the likes of Ronaldo, Van Basten, Muller, Suarez, Batistuta etc.

Exactly, it's more about the different context across the eras. Goalscoring has exploded in this era, for various reasons. Tempt knows that and his comparing Lewa's goal tally to Ronaldo's is disingenuous. The CL and BD also seem much more important (to players' legacy) than they did in Ronaldo's day. I would suggest Inter trying to win Serie A in the late 90s was a bigger deal for them than winning the CL at that time. You'd never say that now.

Plus the thing that I am like a broken record in that I keep saying it - football is also qualitative, not just quantitative. It cannot be measured accurately by stats, it's a game of too many variables, scenarios, and too much movement.

 

[Temptation]

True, one of the main arguments here is the fact that he's been consistent and banged hundreds of goals. Haaland might end up racking 800+ goals by the end of his career. Could very easily score 100+ goals in the Champions League aswell, it doesnt make him better than the likes of Ronaldo, Van Basten, Muller, Suarez, Batistuta etc.

Haaland will definitely go down as one of the greatest strikers ever if he continues in this manner. Whether you like it or not.


And nothing will change the fact that this forum's favourite strikers like Suarez and Benzema have huge red marks on their CV.

 

[Temptation]

Exactly, it's more about the different context across the eras. Goalscoring has exploded in this era, for various reasons. Tempt knows that and his comparing Lewa's goal tally to Ronaldo's is disingenuous. The CL and BD also seem much more important than they did in Ronaldo's say. I would suggest Inter trying to win Serie A in the late 90s was a bigger deal for them than winning the CL at that time.

Plus the thing that I am like a broken record in that I keep saying it - football is also qualitative, not just quantitative. It cannot be measured accurately by stats, it's a game of too many variables, scenarios, and too much movement.

Suarez and Benzema play in this era in superteams and Lewandowski's individual records are comfortably better than them at every level yet you'll find excuses to hype them up. 😂


You're doing the same thing you're accusing me of.