Sandro Rosell

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
How does apart from transfers relate to football mentality?

Transfer spending (balance, given Eto'o 21M) 03-10 -41M/year, and gross debt increase of -31M/year.
Transfer spending (balance, given that we brake even after this transfer window) 10-13 -31M/year, and gross debt decrease of 19M/year

So in relation to transfer spending to gross debt, Rosell is about 40M/year ahead of Laporta.

I'm not talking about who was better in transfers, just about who put the priorities in the correct place. Laporta helped the development of our academy and Enqirue/Pep were strikingly good in that regard. Rosell barely gives a shit, naming Tito and Eusebio to be his pawns and not even appreciating the philosophy built by their predecessors.
 
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jiopi

Guest
I'm not talking about who was better in transfers, just about who put the priorities in the correct place. Laporta helped the development of our academy and Enqirue/Pep were strikingly good in that regard. Rosell barely gives a shit, naming Tito and Eusebio to be his pawns and not even appreciating the philosophy built by their predecessors.
Neither am I, I'm talking who is financially far ahead of the other. All that talk is just hearsay, we don't know about what goes beyond curtains for sure. Only things which are certain, are the numbers, and they definitely don't favour Laporta.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Neither am I, I'm talking who is finance wise far ahead of the other. All that talk is just heresay, we don't know about what goes beyond curtains for sure. Only thing which is certain, are the numbers, and they definitely don't favour Laporta.

Agree there. The turmoil of Laporta was in finances and the debt had to be reduced. I'm not very knowledgeable on the business aspect but could there have been a way where Laporta remained president yet passed off some of his financial/marketing responsibilities to some smarter advisors?

As for the other stuff, we don't know what goes on behind the curtains but what's been publicly shown clearly points to the fact that Rosell doesn't find the coaching system to be a priority and thinks that anyone could do it the way Pep dd. He's hardly focusing on our youth philosophy unlike Laporta, and it's clearly displayed by Eusebio/Tito.
 

Irish_Cules

New member
You have to wonder what effect all of this is having on the players themselves. A large majority of the squad and pretty much all of the key influential players in the dressing room are almost certainly against Rosell and what he is doing.
 

oz187

New member
After Pep left, Tito didn't change much and had a distinct lack of authority that made the team seem a very passive version of the previous one, as if the instructions were "just tell them exactly what Pep did". Well that kind of attitude really showed that it was a poor attempt at copying the previous style and we slacked off as a team.

55 points out of 57 is not slacking off, more the opposite in fact.

Neither am I, I'm talking who is financially far ahead of the other. All that talk is just hearsay, we don't know about what goes beyond curtains for sure. Only things which are certain, are the numbers, and they definitely don't favour Laporta.
Agree there. The turmoil of Laporta was in finances and the debt had to be reduced.

These comments are completely wrong. There was no turmoil. It's ignorant to get paranoid over the word debt like it's something horrendous. This is what businesses do. They take on debt to invest so that they can grow. Debt always has to be measured against revenue and earnings. A doctor would take out a larger mortgage than a nurse. But even though the doctor has a larger debt, it is the doctor that is in a better financial situation because he has a higher income.

Laporta had the strategy of investing in the squad and it worked. The club got success and revenue tripled. That's enabled the club to come to the point where they can choose to pay off the debt if they want to. Of course Rosell has taken the strategy of paying down the debt so that they can then in future raise a large amount of money to invest in the stadium in the future and raise revenues that way.
 
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jiopi

Guest
Laporta had the strategy of investing in the squad and it worked. The club got success and revenue tripled. That's enabled the club to come to the point where they can choose to pay off the debt if they want to. Of course Rosell has taken the strategy of paying down the debt so that they can then in future raise a large amount of money to invest in the stadium in the future and raise revenues that way.
Yeah, that's why Rosell had to make deals, like with Qatar? Because Laporta had it all covered. :shakeshead:
 
Our current management is a joke. First they make Pep leave, and now possibly Thiago (our best youngster, Neymar aside) as well.

Rosell & co are ruining the team.
 
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jiopi

Guest
Only thing which makes Thiago leave is his smugness and love for the green cash.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
i had this debt debate on here years ago, so i can't be bothered to get deep in it, and anyone who constantly talks about debt simply does not understand business and the fact that barca and Madrid are not businesses in the right sense of the word.

so all i will simply say is solvency think about it.
 

Ryan_Cule

barça amor d mi alma
Rosell , what a Legend you are. :worthy:


He changed the statutes very recently and quietly. Before for a vote of no confidence 5% votes were needed from members. He changed it to 15% .


:worthy:
 

Ryan_Cule

barça amor d mi alma
Hilarious people blaming Pep without even getting 1% closer to the truth and not understanding how and which lobby is being used against whom. :lol:



also EDIT : Santos president confirms yesterday's document by saying Neymar's transfer only cost €17M. Not sure where is the rest of the 40M. :rosell:
 
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barca1899

New member
also EDIT : Santos president confirms yesterday's document by saying Neymar's transfer only cost €17M. Not sure where is the rest of the 40M. :rosell:

neymar-elvis.jpg

Invested into Neymar's clothes :neymar:
 

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