Sergio Busquets

jamrock

Senior Member
Positional play is what they drill in you at Barcelona & it works so can't blame him/xavi for wanting it, but ma boy can't run he has to understand this as well, balance.

Frankie understanding positional play would probably make him top 3 midfielder in the World.

He can't stop being a Barcelona legend though.

Iniesta---busquets---xavi still beats 95% of all time great midfields easily, Barca legend until even after he dies.

Still can't run though.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Aye fair drilled it into Gavi/Puig/Alena etc.

No the style that Barca are trying to play with two high AMs in between lines and wingers posted wide with full backs not over lapping is absolutely not how La Masia players are drilled.

The 'positional play' argument by Xavi is an excuse. He is not asking these players to play as they did in La Masia. Gavi is prime example of that.

FDJ understands football fine. He doesnt suit way Xavi wants to play.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
What do they mean by 'positional play' at this point? Busquets is constantly out of his position during oppositions attacking transition.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
I would think they mean finding spaces between the lines, seeing the play develop before it happens, not needing to run around constantly to be effective, instead be efficient with your play.

But busquets definitely of of position constantly due to his lack of pace, you right.

But balance.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
What do they mean by 'positional play' at this point? Busquets is constantly out of his position during oppositions attacking transition.

Xavi means players sticking to positions on the park and knowing who he wants them to connect with in patterns of play.

To suggest the way he has the midfielders set up is in any way a 'Barca way' or how players learn to play at club is utter nonsense.

He is asking players to have played in ways they never have then blaming them. It is like asking Busi to go play AM or box to box and blaming him when he cant.

Busi isnt out of position due to his lack of pace most of the time..more than anything it is him chasing the ball all over park trying to win it back and leaving huge gaps when he doesnt.

His pace is an issue but that following of ball is worse and highlights his lack of pace once teams break past his attempts to step out and win it.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Did any say xavi plays the Barcelona way or has he team setup like that?.

Imma ready through back to page one to find out, maybe I missed it
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Did any say xavi plays the Barcelona way or has he team setup like that?.

Imma ready through back to page one to find out, maybe I missed it

Xavi isnt wanting positional play that is drilled at Barca at any level nor has been in past.

To make out this level of positional play is what is expected at Barca is completely wrong.

While in La masia and in his time midfield had more freedom to get on ball and dominate it in numbers.

Xavi himself has made comments about players having these patterns drilled into them. It is an excuse.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Tbh at one point i thought we do finally play Barca way with Real trashing being the highlight of it. Seemed very well drilled positional play all around. But then things went biscuits and all these crosses and shit started as if someone forced them to stop. I wonder if there's a hint of Pedri-dependency. Maybe he knows how to play positionally the best.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Tbh at one point i thought we do finally play Barca way with Real trashing being the highlight of it. Seemed very well drilled positional play all around. But then thing went biscuits and all these crosses and shit started as if someone forced them to stop.

His set up works better when teams open up and could hit the front three early while more open game allowed likes of FDJ to move more and take advantage of the space.

As time went on teams stopped doing that and got wise to sitting deep, keeping defenders between front three and forcing the cross.

Then breaking through CM with slow Busi and the CMs often posted high up park.

Teams were breaking on Alves, Busi, Alba and Pique at times. That is wild and leaving team too exposed with that many old players who cant run.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
I don't know where xavi lost the plot towards the end, he was playing his own style while being true to Barcelona but trying different things, not being a pep clone had some thought he would be.

But at some point it just became cross after cross with the team divided down the middle & not allowed to cross.

I hope he sees the fault in his setup & with more time can fix it.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I don't know where xavi lost the plot towards the end, he was playing his own style while being true to Barcelona but trying different things, not being a pep clone had some thought he would be.

But at some point it just became cross after cross with the team divided down the middle & not allowed to cross.

I hope he sees the fault in his setup & with more time can fix it.

The opposition changed.. Barca improved and teams realised couldnt open up and not as easy a touch.

Barca then never reacted to it and kept playing a style that was not working to break teams down and slow football recycling ball to the wings then get it in.

Barca wont have the players to play that way next season either. There is not one wide player that wants to get ball into box early. They all want to come central and look for action around the box.

Need better fullbacks, wide players more central and closer to striker and game given back to midfielders with more freedom to be proactive and look to dominate ball.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Positional play is what they drill in you at Barcelona & it works so can't blame him/xavi for wanting it, but ma boy can't run he has to understand this as well, balance.

Frankie understanding positional play would probably make him top 3 midfielder in the World.

He can't stop being a Barcelona legend though.

Iniesta---busquets---xavi still beats 95% of all time great midfields easily, Barca legend until even after he dies.

Still can't run though.

Modric,Kross and Casemiro fucking own Xaviesta and Busquets. Much more adaptable,better mentality and aged way better. Xaviesta and Busquets had two CL. That's it.

Busquets should have gone after Anfield but here he is bad mouthing the board despite being a key factor in our European debacles. Only at Barca can you lose so badly and still retain your starting position. Clown club.
He and Pique are the epitome of shameless.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Modric,Kross and Casemiro fucking own Xaviesta and Busquets. Much more adaptable,better mentality and aged way better. Xaviesta and Busquets had two CL. That's it.

Busquets should have gone after Anfield but here he is bad mouthing the board despite being a key factor in our European debacles. Only at Barca can you lose so badly and still retain your starting position. Clown club.
He and Pique are the epitome of shameless.

Those guys all played vs each other at their best, we all know how that went.

Try again.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Those guys all played vs each other at their best, we all know how that went.

Try again.

Never did really.

Kroos joined in 2014 and Xavi was not even a starter for Barca that following season.

Casimero was on loan at Porto then as well.

But Xavi, Iniesta and Busi dominated in way those three never have at best.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
What do they mean by 'positional play' at this point? Busquets is constantly out of his position during oppositions attacking transition.

Lol exactly. If you are a sloth it doesn't matter how good your understanding of "positional play" is. Football is a dynamic,not static game. This stupid fucker made his name by cleaning up a few scraps for Xaviesta and now he 8s acting like he is some Pirlo. Pirlo was ten times the player this ding ding is.
 

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