Spanish FA, FC Barcelona sanctioned for international transfers of minors

[Luftstalag14]

Apparently they are because these sort of problems should be dealt with proactively as they are completely predictable and the first rumours of an impending sanction, or at least a pending investigation, popped up months ago.
I hope that they do know that an appeal to the FIFA Appeal Committee (or CAS as the subsequent instance) leads to a suspensive effect of the sanction as a basic principle (with exceptions, as always), so the club can buy time. Plus the degree of penalty is certainly unduly, so I definitely see this reduced in the end.

Nevertheless, what really drives me insane though is seeing how other clubs in Europe handle this: You see parents of the players employed as gardeners or bus drivers by the buyer club; shady triangle agreements between clubs abroad with training facilities that only exist on paper, countries in the EU with 'flexible' visa and immigration policies and the buyer club; or exploiting the heterogeneous european contract law.
All the while Barca is seemingly unable to even make proper use of the legal exceptions Art. 19 RSTP provides.

It's evidence of incapacity of everyone involved with this.

 

[Flavia]

Apparently they are because these sort of problems should be dealt with proactively as they are completely predictable and the first rumours of an impending sanction, or at least a pending investigation, popped up months ago.
I hope that they do know that an appeal to the FIFA Appeal Committee (or CAS as the subsequent instance) leads to a suspensive effect of the sanction as a basic principle (with exceptions, as always), so the club can buy time. Plus the degree of penalty is certainly unduly, so I definitely see this reduced in the end.

Nevertheless, what really drives me insane though is seeing how other clubs in Europe handle this: You see parents of the players employed as gardeners or bus drivers by the buyer club; shady triangle agreements between clubs abroad with training facilities that only exist on paper, countries in the EU with 'flexible' visa and immigration policies and the buyer club; or exploiting the heterogeneous european contract law.
All the while Barca is seemingly unable to even make proper use of the legal exceptions Art. 19 RSTP provides.

It's evidence of incapacity of everyone involved with this.

Indeed. We can only hope they do get the suspention effect, so ter stegen and a cb can come... I'm willing to believe they're not that much incompetent, and will be able to do this. Then, banned from the 2 windows in 2015.

 

[icemanbrfc]

One of the funniest things, is that it's Fifa imposing the ban. This is the same Fifa run by Sepp Blatter, the organision that has been riddled by controversy over World Cup issues

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[Cule4life]

I expected nonsense and stupidity, but this level still surprises me. Barca is run by people who probably can't tie their own shoes.

And who think there's no need to buy new shoes as old ones are like new buys (signings)

 

[instinct]

Can Fifa not Ban Bartomeu instead?

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Would Blatter replace him then?

 

[icemanbrfc]

I just find it funny that Fifa are pointing fingers lol

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[Chainsaw]

I just find it funny that Fifa are pointing fingers lol

Maybe "the thief, corrupt son of a bitch" Blatter wants more money?

 

[Cule4life]

The socios can do their bit by rejecting the stadium renovation proposal on Saturday to put the first nail in the coffin of this board

 

[icemanbrfc]

Who knows Razor, but they like their brown envelopes it seems lol

On a more serious note though, the press conference by Bartomeu further illustrates the lack of a clear leader. It was a foolish thing to say, to agree with the rules, then saying barca should be exempt smacks of arrogance. If Bartomeu is not careful, then he could be the reason the appeal will be a waste of time

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[instinct]

Maybe Rosell is a Real Madrid agent and Perez paid him millions to destroy Barca :tata1:

 

[zanela]

Amongst the many comments left by MD readers on their site. One suggested asking our players to threaten boycotting FIFA's premier summer event, in order to put pressure on the governing body, if the TB is indeed upheld. Now the prob for this board is that they 've lost player's confidence, to ask their favour. I'm certain even their very own golden boy would reject such an idea.

 

[DonAK]

The socios can do their bit by rejecting the stadium renovation proposal on Saturday to put the first nail in the coffin of this board

This. If the referendum goes through then it will be a sign of trust in this board and then everyone can forget elections before the term ends.

 

[FCBarca]

1. There's no doubt Barto/Rosell and their board must go...New elections need to be called to course correct before they completely implode the project Laporta, Pep et al masterfully put together

2. However, I wouldn't get too caught up in the press conference comments...Acknowledging that they broke Art.19 is both clear and dates back to the original ban more than a year ago so you can't plead ignorance...He couldn't have said Art.19 wasn't broken...The issue of being an exception is an important one, though...The argument has probably long been the difference between the spirit of the regulation and the application because there are absolutely no grounds to claim minors have been taken advantage of...Quite to the contrary...FIFA enacted this article in 2003, long after La Masia was underway for one thing...But I'm more curious what the club did between Feb. 2013 and now regarding these players because the gist of it sounds like the club failed to do anything other than stop some of the players from playing

3. But I think there are more specifics to the ban that neither FIFA nor the club have spelled out - could be something as simple as paperwork or filing issues etc...The point being that on the surface, this feels like much ado about nada...Unless this is some ploy for FIFA to get a cut of whatever fees these youth players eventually generate, certainly wouldn't be the first time FIFA were out to line their pockets

4. The reality that FIFA had made the decision to execute a ban in November 2013 yet it wasn't announced until now is an odd wrinkle...although, again, we are talking about FIFA...I imagine this will come up with the CAS if it ends up there

5. I'm not too worried about the ban, our potential transfers or the club's rep...I'm more worried about the cantera and the players implicated - what happens to them & what are the longterm consequences to La Masia and how they enroll kids?

6. If nothing else, I am happy that Barto was explicit that the club is outraged and that they will not change La Masia one iota as well as fight the ban


Ultimately, my feeling has been that this has the look of a witch hunt to be honest...English clubs poach and the rest simply lose too many to a much more successful footballing academy at Barcelona which puts a big bullseye over them from a sporting/competitive perspective...The irony that FIFA makes an exception for youths within Europe that benefits one league (Premiership) and who also generates the most money in terms of International transfers (By a considerable margin) is scandalous, IMO...I absolutely believe the club is within their rights to defend the virtues of their program, regardless of Art.19, since the spirit of the regulation is clearly honored

 

[hardyboy]

AS claims that both Atlético and Real are investigated by FIFA. Both clubs are suspected of similar violations of transfer rules regarding under aged players as was the case with Barcelona. The claim is based on the insider sources of AS and there hasn't been any public announcement from FIFA.

 

[XaviMessiGirl]

So far basically Bartomeu is saying that FCB should be an exception to these current FIFA rules which are not the most comprehensive and we plan not to change the regulations of Masia. He said there are people who are trying to destabilize the club, which apparently that Barca have evidence on but are not going to bring into light.

How dumb can he get? He's basically saying that Barca should be above the law, which is not going to win us any favors. If you ask for an exception & don't get it, you don't go ahead & do it anyway. I realize La Masia is different from other football academies, but the rules are still the rules.